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Is ABZ-GRQ On BMI Profitable?  
User currently offlineN774UA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 343 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

This is IMO not a leisure route, but is there enough business (oil) to make it profitable?

N774UA


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User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2200 times:

I can't speak for bmi regional, but before they came along Eastern Airways did this route and the flights were essentially a contract for Shell, therefore almost certainly a profit-making exercise. Eastern used the J41 at first and it was almost always fully loaded passenger-wise. The plan was for their Saab 2000 leased from Golden Air to do this run in between the ABZ-NCL-SOU sectors. However, things changed and bmi came onto the route instead.


Like a fine wine, one gets better with age.
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

Wasn't the T3 service a charter?


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

Yes, a scheduled charter though. It was scheduled to leave ABZ every Mon, Wed, Fri at 10:30. A short time later (just after I left T3) it became a full scheduled service and appeared on their timetable for anyone to book. Not sure why this was. It could have been a drop in revenue from Shell (or even the contract expiring) or maybe a reaction to bmi announcing its intentions to fly the route.


Like a fine wine, one gets better with age.
User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

The business traffic on that route isn't oil. It's gas.

Oil companies deal in gas as well as liquid petroleum products, so that's where the need is.

If anyone's interested
http://www.geo.tudelft.nl/fmr/deosletter/97-1/html/art4/node1.html

Groningen is one of the largest natural gas fields in the world.

[Edited 2004-08-19 23:00:30]

User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5204 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

The HQ of the Dutch Gas company Gasunie is in GRQ. Also the dutch oil company NAM is based in Assen, just 15 km south of GRQ. Since both have many platforms on the North Sea close to Aberdeen that will be the reason for this line. It just opened not long time ago also to the general public, although the fares are high. maybe a touroperator will jump in soon.

KL911


User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

What other routes are offered from Groningen? My e-timetables doesnt show any flight to AMS, PAR or LON.

User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5204 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

JoFMO,

For a long time we had a GRQ-AMS, but KL stopped the route. After that an other airline operated the route, can't remember the name now, but that didn't last long. Ryanair flew GRQ for a few years, but that also just stopped. Al they have now are a lot of holiday charters, and business flights. They are growing fast according to their website. http://www.gae.nl/index.cfm?&language=en

* The easy way to go!

Groningen Airport Eelde is the regional airport for the northern part of the Netherlands. Each week, around one thousand passengers depart from Groningen Airport Eelde to their holiday destination. There are about 15 weekly charters to 8 different destinations. Furthermore many passengers make use of the daily scheduled service to Aberdeen from Monday through Friday. The airport also facilitates private charterflights for business travellers around Europe.

The comfort of flying from Groningen Airport Eelde

Groningen Airport Eelde is the easy way to go when it comes to your business and leisure trips. Just experience for yourself why so many people start their trip at our airport!




User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

Just was at Groningen internet site. It could be high-ranked in the list of airports with the smallest amount of scheduled traffic. Monday to Friday to Aberdeen with BMI and Monday and Friday to Norwich by Eastern Airways. Thats an amazing small number of flights.

User currently offlineKlmyank From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

Not to mention the KLM flight academy...

User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5204 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

Don't forget all the charters and business flights.. This summer i was sitting outside on the terrace and I had 2 737's and a 757 parked in front of me at 20 meters distance... No fence, nothing.... I love those small airports!

2x 737 was Transavia 757 was Dutchbird.


User currently offlineN774UA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2021 times:

For a long time we had a GRQ-AMS, but KL stopped the route. After that an other airline operated the route, can't remember the name now, but that didn't last long.

Wasn't that FlyMetropolis?

N774UA



...follow his instructions, switch off at the stand.
User currently offlineKLbambie From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 98 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2003 times:

Here is a link to local paper for you folks. Apparently things are going a little better for BMI on this route in comparison to when they first started it. Article is dated the 11th May 2004, having a look to see if there is anything a little more recent.

I'm sure the money from the Scottish Executive is a help!?!?!?!


http://www.thisisnorthscotland.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=149235&command=displayContent&sourceNode=149218&contentPK=9910086


User currently offlineLXLGU From South Africa, joined Sep 2000, 1085 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 2002 times:

This is a business route
Next week loads

MON ABZ GRQ 37 GRQ ABZ 16
TUE ABZ GRQ 9 GRQ ABZ 23
WED ABZ GRQ 25 GRQ ABZ 21
THU ABZ GRQ 21 ABZ GRQ 22
FRI ABZ GRQ 10 GRQ ABZ 30

This is on the ER3 that seats 37 so loads not too bad
Fares are between 148 and 494 pounds return

Cheers!
Tony


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