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Philippine Airlines 744 At SFO 3 Days Now  
User currently offlineLeamside From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 444 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5014 times:

RP-C8168 has been at SFO since Sunday night. Am trying to iron out the details as to whether she actually took off and came back after an hour or so of flight ( & landing during the wee hours of Monday Aug 16) or whether she aborted during take-off roll.

As of noon today she was still parked at the same location. Engine #s 1 & 4 had their coverings partially open.

Does anyone have any more info about this?

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User currently offlineLeamside From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 444 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4860 times:

Update on this: 8168 took off for Manila reportedly using two engines only around 5:00PM today. No passengers aboard.


User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5141 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4839 times:

How can a B747 fly on 2 engines only? Last time I know it happened was when a LY 747 crashed in AMS in 1992.

User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4755 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4732 times:

The 747 can techinically fly with one engine. But I am not sure if they can take off like that.


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User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4700 times:

can't imagine a 2 engine ferry being legal. Anything goes wrong and the plane is in the drink.

3 engines ferries of 4 engine craft happen, but even then a lot of planning is involved.

George



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User currently offlineSFO212 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4615 times:

Just looked up the flight. The aircraft was flown or ferried to HNL as PAL Flight 7. Departed SFO at about 5 pm and arrived in HNL at about 7 pm.

User currently offlineLeamside From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 444 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4494 times:

SFO212, thanks for the head-up as to the flight number for 8168.

PAL flight #7 just took off from Honolulu 6:37AM local time and should be arriving Manila 10:39AM, Saturday, Aug 21 (Philippine Time).

I wonder why it had to stop at HON when it could have flown directly given that there were no pax from SFO.


User currently offlineCospn From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4368 times:

Two Engines only on a 10 Hour Flite HNL-MNL even with no pax..???

Mabe -1 there is a 747F Kalita on the pix section fling with 3 HNL-Oscoda MI


User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4277 times:

I wonder why it had to stop at HON when it could have flown directly given that there were no pax from SFO.

When you first posted this news a couple of days ago, I actually thought that it would make the stop at HNL on its way back to MNL, despite flying empty.

I think the stop at HNL is a mandatory technical stop - passengers or not.



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4204 times:

It was at the LHT Philippines hangar with two engines removed as I flew on N754PR to Cebu this afternoon.


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User currently offlineLeamside From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 444 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4037 times:

Lufthansa 747,

Which engines were removed? Outer?

Trickijedi,

PAL's website schedule mentions a stop at HON but I there are times (usually off-peak season) when their planes fly straight to MNL.


User currently offlineN751PR From Japan, joined May 2002, 1249 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

Yeah it's usually when the headwinds aren't that strong in which they don't need to top their tanks off at HNL.


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User currently offline9844 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 3856 times:

We had large typhoons in the Guam area over the weekend.

User currently offlinePhilsquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 3844 times:

A 3 engine ferry is allowed by Boeing, however, Boeing will not give approval for a 2 engine ferry on the 744. In fact, Boeing will not even provide take off performance charts to allow TOD computation.

In addition, I am positive the FAA would never issue a ferry permit to allow the aircraft to depart SFO.


User currently offlineLeamside From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 444 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3716 times:

I now hear from guys in Manila that 8168 was ferried using three engines as against talk by SFO folks that it took off using 2 engines only.

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