FRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2316 posts, RR: 10 Posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 10126 times:
I have heard over the years of plenty of B 707, 737, 747, 757, 767, MD-11, DC-10, L-1011, A300, A310, A320 crashing etc... but has there ever been a 777, 717, A330, A340 crash ever? If not, talk about a good safety record.
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SafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 16 Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9913 times:
The 777 has never had any incidents. A VS 340 performed an emergency landing in LHR in the late '90s after the gear failed to be lowered, but was in the fleet for many more following years.
I am not sure about the 717 and 330.
-Will
EDIT: G-VSUN, the 340 involved in the VS incident, is still in the fleet.
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2235 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9888 times:
A good place to find the answer to your question would to do a database search of the NTSB accidents. Go to this site, and type in the aircraft type. http://www2.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp
According to the NTSB database search the following incidents are listed:
777 1 fatality, 4 incidences
717 2 incidences
330 3 incidences
340 4 incidences
EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4929 posts, RR: 28 Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9785 times:
FJWH, well, Iberia has a long history of incidents (thank God, few become actual accidents). And I'm saying this fron first hand experiance. For example, Shortly after departing from GRU to MAD we had to come back because of "some problem in the cockpit" (i quote a crew member) and eventually left GRU 5 hours later. I never found out what the real problem was. Another example, my sister was on a MAD-EZE flight, shortly after departure there was an engine fire and the plane had to go back.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37 Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9755 times:
777, 737NG (so 600 to 900 series, which come from a different production line then the older 737s), A340, 717, MD-90, Do 328 Jet, Embraer Jets (all series), Saab 2000, Dassault Mercure, Fokker 70, the A318, A319 and A321 (so basically all subtypes of the A-320 family except the A-320 itself) are the airliners which have never been in a crash in which occupants (pax or crew) have been killed. So the ground fueler incident with the 777 wasn't a crash, the frame G-VIIK was hardly damaged, and the A-340s were incidents (the airframes are still airworthy and noone is killed).
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37 Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9749 times:
Oops, forgot to check the Russian airplanes, apart from the Il-96, the Tu-204 family has a perfect record as well. Even the Il-86 had only one crash (only crew killed).
But Dijkkijk, the A-310 doesn't have a real good record... Check btw http://aviation-safety.net... out of my head I know of a Tarom, a Kenya Airways, two Thai Airways and an Aeroflot crash and there were a few more.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
Maersk737 From Denmark, joined Feb 2004, 632 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9719 times:
"For example, Shortly after departing from GRU to MAD we had to come back because of "some problem in the cockpit" (i quote a crew member) and eventually left GRU 5 hours later. I never found out what the real problem was. Another example, my sister was on a MAD-EZE flight, shortly after departure there was an engine fire and the plane had to go back"
And therefore Iberia have long history of incidents??
EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4929 posts, RR: 28 Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9676 times:
Peter, true, many other have had incidents, but from my personal experience, Iberia has the worst record. Again, only from my personal experience.
Regards
Iowa744fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 928 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9632 times:
Not a single A310 has crashed yet!
Not true. As MEA-707 was starting to mention, there have been five fatal crashes of the A310 in commercial service. Here is a direct link to the page.
As for the 717, 777, 330, and 340, all seem to be quite safe. Granted, the 330 had a crash during flight trials, but the record since has been quite strong. You cannot consider the write-offs for any of the 4 330s or 2 340s to be any fault of the aircraft...just being in the wrong place at the wrong time (the Sri Lankan birds and the AF bird) or poor packaging of chemicals (the MH bird). I have also heard that another aircraft was damaged by fire at the same pad as the AF340 at CDG a year or two earlier, but I don't seem to be able to find anything about it. Anyone else heard anything about this?
BA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 381 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9590 times:
Aeroflot A-310 crashed in Siberia, when the captain allowed his
14 year old son to sit in the left seat. The kid disconnected the auto-pilot, sending the plane into a dive from FL330. The FO managed to level off just as the plane hit the ground. All 75 killed. Flight to HKG as a company charter for shopping.
Kim777fan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 510 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9443 times:
AFAIK, none of the DC-9's in Northwest's current fleet have ever crashed. An impeccable 35-year history of aviation safety!!
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9416 times:
AFAIK, none of the DC-9's in Northwest's current fleet have ever crashed. An impeccable 35-year history of aviation safety!!
...course, the second one does go down, the media would pound the living sh!t outta NW for flying planes that old; CO et al will tout the youth of their fleet; and NW would have some serious 'splaining to do to the public... at least for a little while thereafter.
25 Vimanav: The Dassault Breguet Mercure: only 12 built, operated by Air Inter. None ever crashed or killed anyone. rgds//Vimanav
26 Mlsrar: ...course, the second one does go down, the media would pound the living sh!t outta NW for flying planes that old; CO et al will tout the youth of the
27 Mlsrar: AFAIK, none of the DC-9's in Northwest's current fleet have ever crashed. Laugh out loud An impeccable 35-year history of aviation safety!! You forget
28 Bullpitt: EZEIZA has to be either the dumb among the dumb in this forum or has a real problem with IB. He's obviously the type that will criticize IB even to th
29 Starlionblue: only three A300's have crashed and all because of pilot error AA587 (an A300) crash in New York was not due to pilot error but due to a design defect
30 RT514: AA587 (an A300) crash in New York was not due to pilot error but due to a design defect in the tail. Possibly, but not yet concluded to be as such (if
31 IBERIA747: I don´t think EZEIZA has any idea about how many incidents occur every day to many airlines around the world. Your personal experience?? do you actua
32 Bullpitt: Somebody has deleted my last post regarding what EZEIZA said in posts 4, 11 and 17. I'll refrain myself from telling him what I think of him so the po
33 CitationJet: Starlionblue, The 777 has been involved in one fatality: Not a crash, but the 777 was involved in a fatal ground fire. http://www2.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief
34 Starlionblue: Thx CitationJet I did not know that.
35 Redngold: How about the MD-90? If any of them have crashed, wouldn't it be in China or somwhere outside the U.S.? redngold
36 Thrust: There was actually a recent tail-strike of a Malaysia Boeing 777 at Zurich during takeoff recently. A lot of fuel was dumped and the flight had to ret
37 Starlionblue: Ahem, welcome to the thread then. We have already concluded that some 2 340s has been written off and 1 330 has crashed with fatalities. EDIT to corre
38 Starlionblue: Redngold, the MD-90 has had fatalities in it's one hull loss: http://aviation-safety.net/database/1999/990824-0.htm
39 Kim777fan: "You forget the -10 collision in 1990:" Sorry. I was making a joke and said that nothing in Northwest's CURRENT fleet had ever crashed. (Duh!!) Statis
40 Leezyjet: "EDIT: G-VSUN, the 340 involved in the VS incident, is still in the fleet." Umm no it was actually G-VSKY that was involved and that has now left the
41 ConcordeBoy: Of why they have done an excellent job of managing loss and keeping operating costs to a minimum in spite of the rest of the legacy carriers being pla
42 Isitsafenow: The NW DC-9-10 at DTW,N3313L, was side-swiped on the ground by a NW 727-200, N278US, because of heavy fog on the deck. Do we classify that as a "crash
43 Starlionblue: Plane crash is rather blunt and only good for the media. I guess one would properly call it an "occurence" that resulted in a "hull loss" with "fatali
44 Wdleiser: My mom was Pursering a Lufthansa A340 enroute to KIAH from EDDF when over Little Rock it rolled pretty much onto its side, lost a vast amount of altit
45 BlueSky1976: SafetyDude: "The 777 has never had any incidents". Actually, Air France had in-flight engine failure with 777-200ER back in 2000 and with 777-300ER ea
46 EMBQA: As far as the 'RJ' market...I can only think of Dornier 328jet with a zero record. Canadair has lost 2 that I know with 1 fatality, and Embraer has lo
47 DfwRevolution: Actually, Air France had in-flight engine failure with 777-200ER back in 2000 and with 777-300ER earlier this year. CO and UA have also had an in-flig
48 Iowa744fan: The NW DC-9-10 at DTW,N3313L, was side-swiped on the ground by a NW 727-200, N278US, because of heavy fog on the deck. Do we classify that as a "cras
49 DStuntz: I'm not sure if you are wondering what AIRLINES have never had crashes among the planes that have been in their fleet, as well as what TYPE of airline
50 COEWR2587: I've heard that Qantas is a pretty safe airline.
51 EZEIZA: I want to apologize to all the people that took my comments on Iberia as a personal issue. Guys, chill out! I was just making a comment on past experi
52 Cbs5150: What about the Convair 880 or 990??? I know they weren't around a long time but what about their safety record??
53 Gigneil: The 777 has never had any incidents. The 777 has had many incidents, one fatal, and several near fatal ones. Some range from routine (engine out) to q
54 Spacecadet: Just like the AA DC-10 that toppled out of the sky over O'Hare was a result of a design defect in the pylon? Right. That's what AA said, so surely you
55 BA84: I believe QANTAS had a 707 cargo crash on a South Pacific island, killing the crew of four. Can anyone confirm?
56 ZKSUJ: "only three A300's have crashed and all because of pilot error." Is that counting the AA A300 that crashed after takeoff for JFK a few weeks after 9/1
57 SA006: EK had an incident at JNB in April this year... It was an A340-300 .. unfortunately I don't have a link to the source I got but I know it happened. Th
58 Anair: More than 250 flights with Iberia. The worst I can say about it is flying in bussiness two days in the same weekend and eating the same food. Go ahead
59 Cpt Underpants: Spacecadet: You make some interesting points, but I can tell there's no way I would attempt rudder inputs like those used by the AA F/O on any of Boei
60 Brettbrett21: Well let me just add, regarding aircraft that have not yet crashed........TOUCH WOOD! Hope the safety record continues for those and all aircraft. Bre
61 FLYSSC: Bluesky1976, Air France at two severe engine troubles with the B772ER : 1999 : Flight GRU - CDG. Diverted to LPA (Las Palmas - Gran Canaria) 2003 : Fl
62 Isitsafenow: Add to the 880 list of busted airplanes, the two training flights, one by DL at ATL in 60 and the TWA at MCI in 65. The N number were N8804E...DL, and
63 MEA-707: Isitsafenow > Indeed no real DC-9-50 crashes! Ghana Airways damaged two beyond repair on landing incidents though. Of the DC-9 submodels also the 20s
64 Yhmfan: To the best of my knowledge there has never been a crash of any kind for an A380.
65 Iowa744fan: With regards to the Convair 880, I have not gone on that site to look, but I know of two hull losses that occurred when they were in operation for Cat
66 RCS763av: The 7E7 and the Do328JET have never crashed.
67 KCMike: Wasnt there an AirTransat A330 a few years ago that was almost lost. I remember they made a emergancy landing with no fatalities. But the pilots did a
68 BuyantUkhaa: For the Air Transat incident, find pictures at http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/ts236/photo.shtml I've spoken to an air traffic controller who was in
69 FLYSSC: Austrian Airline Fokker 70 made a "crash landing" near MUC on January 5th 2004. After losing power on both engines, while on approach at MUC, the pilo
70 Redngold: Hey, at least I was correct that the single MD-90 incident (with a single fatality) occurred in China! Hooray for Delta and American! Redngold
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