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The Future Of Horizon Air (QX)  
User currently offlineBlackhawk144 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4941 times:

Hello,

I was thinking about the future of QX for a while, and I came across a few questions I couldn't help but ask on airliners.net to see if any of you have an answer.

1. Will QX get anymore CRJ-700s?
This question is due to the fact that the past two airplanes they were supposed to get were changed into Dash 8 Q400s. The Q400s are making money, but if QX converts all of the next orders to Q400s, what will happen to the -700s? So I do wonder now, if QX will ever aquire more CRJs.

2. Will QX go with another airline?
The reason I ask is because they seem to be doing so well with F9 Express, and I was wondering if they wanted to become like Mesa in the sense that they work for more than two airlines. Since they're getting more CRJs (Dash-8 Q400s?), it brought up another question. This may be somewhat of a bad question that I'll get an immediate no, but I just want to hear your opinions.

3. What will happen to the hubs: PDX, SEA, BOI (hub?)?
It seems like since QX is replacing a lot of AS traffic there, QX will make PDX a bigger hub than SEA. It also seems that they're making SEA Dash-8s only. I was hearing the rumor that SEA, and BOI were to become Dash-8 hub. SEA didn't surprise me, but BOI did, mainly because I don't see many routes except maybe montana, and Idaho, that would suit well for a Dash 8 hub.

4. Will QX ever purchase CRJ-200s, or CRJ-900s?
I ask because I've been hearing that QX has been considering it. I have emailed them about this, and they said that QX was thinking about purchasing them, but not yet due to not having enough routes able to support it. That surprised me, because when they said that, I just had to think PDX-SEA, SEA-GEG, PDX-BOI, etc.

5. Is QX going to make LAX a hub for them?
I also heard they had plans to serve Hermosillo, Mexico, but they scrapped it from what I heard. I may be wrong, but hasn't QX applied for a grant to serve LAX to Modesto, CA? I heard that QX will be serving a lot of Californian destinations, so that makes me wonder if they have any plans to make LAX a hub.

6. Will QX ever serve smaller Mexican cities in Mexico?
This sort of attaches to the above question, and I have heard numorous rumors about QX and Mexico. Would it work if QX started serving the markets that AS doesn't serve such as La Paz, or as the above mentioned, Hermosillo, and maybe even Monterrey?

Any feedback is appreciated! I don't want this thread to go out of control, as I have seen many like these sometimes do.

Anthony

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User currently offlineKwbl From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4840 times:

This is all conjecture on my part but here goes:

1. I think will almost certainly get more CRJ-700s. It seems to be an excellent plane for their network(especially once the reliability problems get worked out)

2. I think they currently code-share with AS, AA, NW, CO and HA. Plus they have the jet express deal. I do not see them doing too much in the way of flying their planes in other liveries. Seems like they would really have to grow their aircraft # substantially in order to that. I think they have been conservative in their growth which is probably why they are profitable.

3. Though PDX is crucial to QX, I do not see PDX surpassing QX, mainly because of the large feed at SEA. The O & D and connection possiblities at SEA will make it a stronger hub for QX

4. I do not know if either aircraft will be helpful to them based on their current route structure. Seems like the DH8 can handle the NW traffic and the Q-400 and 700s can handle the rest. If they made the decision to go all-jet, I could see the CRJ-200 or the 44 seat version. I think the 900 is too big for the majority of the routes and once you get into that category. I think AS starts looking at serving the route (again just a guess on my part)

5. I do not think LAX will ever be a hub but rather a very important spoke connecting the smaller California and Oregon communities. MFR, EUG, BOI and Sun Valley are the only cities thus far with Redding, Santa Maria, Modesto rumored to be in the mix. I think the bulk of LAX traffic would be O & D

6. It would not surprise me given Alaska Air gorup's interest in Mexico to look in to that. However, there is very heavy competition from the LA basin to Mexico.

Salem, OR looks to have a reasonably good shot at being QX's next city as well as Modesto. I like the way Horizon is going about their growth and hope for their continued success-they are an excellent airline!


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4810 times:

2. Will QX go with another airline?

No, they are owned by the Alaska Air Group but operate independantly under their own name. (On a separate topic...makes me wonder why AA didnt allow TW to do this....but thats for a different thread..)

3. What will happen to the hubs: PDX, SEA, BOI (hub?)?

Although QX is based in SEA like AS is....PDX is their main hub and always will be. They have a huge MX department in PDX. I consider SEA as one of their hubs, but Ive never been to BOI so I dont know what their ops are like in BOI.

5. Is QX going to make LAX a hub for them?

With AS already having LAX as a hub and a base for its pilots and F/As, it is very unlikely that QX will ever make LAX a hub.

Salem, OR looks to have a reasonably good shot at being QX's next city as well as Modesto. I like the way Horizon is going about their growth and hope for their continued success-they are an excellent airline!

I agree with that....it looks to me like thats the direction that they'll take since QX seems to be 'big' on Northern California/Oregon destinations.

As far as aircraft goes, Im illiterate about that so I dont know. I have heard some complaints about the newer aircraft that they got for the last few years...either the new turboprop or the new CRJ...I dont know...but there are complaints probably something about the APU not working very well(?). No sources on that.



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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4813 times:

Making PDX a bigger hub than Seattle? Man. That's heavy stuff to ponder. Well it's more centrally located......and I've love to see something in Portland that is better than the same thing in Seattle. Portland has been the bald-headed step-child to Seattle for too long!!! (I feel for you FtWorth people Smile/happy/getting dizzy)So.....will it happen? We can only wait (and wait and wait and wait) and see.

I think Horizon is ahead of the intelligence curve on CRJ economics. They have them deployed where they can make money. Will they go out and develop new markets with them like other airlines? I can't see them doing that, like say Independence on the East Coast. I see them more likely to respond to a growth market with a prudent fleet type. Which, for most of Horizon territory, is satisfied with arguably the best turboprop aircraft currently on the market. (what is it?, half the csm than a similiar sized rj? correct me if I am wrong)

I just talked to a guy who lives down in Baja California. Flys back and forth bout 5 times a year. He tells me La Paz isn't the draw for tourists it once was. San del Cabo sucks all the leisure traffic on the pennisula. Doesn't Horizon focus on mostly Leisure destinations in Mexico? If they marketed to the Americans with 2nd homes in Baja, they could maybe make a go with it, that is if they use the dash-8Q. 72 seats? Yeah, I think they could do that. It's probably why we're talking about Horizon, and not Alaska with MD-80s and 737s.

I have written in other threads about California-Monterey(Nuevo Leon) flights, so I won't bore you all with redundant details. I just don't feel the market is strong enough to support anything more than what Aviasca already provides.



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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4766 times:

QX will not purchase CRJ-200's at any point in time. The question was raised by employees just as they were curious. QX found the -200's cost more to operate than the CRJ-700's. Likewise, I doubt QX will buy the CRJ-900, either. it seems like they're happy with they're current fleet. The rumors I've heard is that they want to get rid of the Q200's when the lease comes up on them, and slowly move to an all Q400, and CRJ-700 fleet. Just a rumor.

My understanding was that QX was slowing "dismanteling" the BOI hub to the point where they would no longer call it a "hub", but an out station. I heard that QX was going to have PDX and SEA be they're only hubs for the foreseeable future.

QX will not expand past being the regional airline they are. I believe Denver is as far as "Horizon Air" will ever serve east. Horizon has no desire to ever grow past the regional ariline they are. They simply want to be the best regional airline there is Smile I would love to see Horizon expand and serve as many destinations on the west coast as they possibly can. I'd also love to see them, as they grow and aquire more aircraft, make a big push in California. As Alaska grows, it would be fun to see Horizon feed LAX from northern and southern california destinations. Maybe move in on American Eagle and Skywest out of SAN and those markets. Maybe a big dream...possibly too big for Horizon, but wouldn't it be cool? Smile Alaska has they're sights set on being a bigger airline, and Horizon could be the airline to help them grow out of LAX. It seems like Alaska wants to really make LAX a bigger focus over the next decade. Seeing Horizon feed into LAX would be awesome.


User currently offlineASBOIRR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4665 times:

I don't get what Horizon has been or will do with BOI. They keep adding/removing seats on intra-Idaho flights. The schedule seems to change on a weekly basis. Right now they have a DH4 back on the route to Eastern Idaho from BOI. Could just be for positioning rather than needing those seats. Horizon will be moving to the new concourse C sometime this year which is an expansion of gates. The rumor for BOI is that Alaska will be phased in replacing QX on BOI-SEA/PDX/LAX. Boise has been responsive to Alaska as our marketshare on the route has increased even though there are less flights to choose from when it was QX eight times daily. Anyways, with Concourse C QX will be taking on a lot of new ground load gates. Isn't adding up.

User currently offlineAZjetgeek From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 235 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4638 times:

I'm unable to answer your questions about QX, but I did want to put in a few observations about the airline and my only experience with them.

Five years ago last month, I flew from Seattle to Wenatchee (and back) on a Q200. It was a great flight in both directions. The aircraft are as quiet as advertised and the service was very nice. If I were in a position to use QX again, I would not hesitate.

Since I'm not privy to information about their fleet plans, I can only comment on what aircraft they currently operate. The Q400 seems to be quite successful for QX. It's a sound aircraft and I've not read anything negative about it to date.

As for the CRJ-700, I've observed in A.net that several of them have experienced APU difficulties. I also know that a HPX (Mesa Air) CRJ-700 had a heating/AC malfunction last month in PHX and was forced to return to the gate. I would hope that those problems get worked out because it is an attractive aircraft and meets a need in the 70-plus RJ category for the routes flown by QX.



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User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4612 times:

There has always been talk about QX taking over some of the very small markets AS has in Southeast Alaska.. you know PSG, WRG, CDV, YAK.... those are the subsidized cities AS has.. but the PAX loads in/out of those markets is very small and it has been said that AS can not afford to keep cycling a 737 in those small towns only to pick up one or two PAX ...


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User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1880 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4547 times:

Hey Anthony...Remember what your dad said "If your going to fly seventy seats, why not 90 seats?" lol... I would deffinately expect the CR9 to come online with QX for routes such as SEA-FAT eventually SEA-SMF and Possibly SEA-PSP. Not to mention they would be a GREAT asset for QX on PDX-SJC/OAK/SFO/SMF! so deffinately be watching for the CR9 with QX!

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4520 times:

but the PAX loads in/out of those markets is very small and it has been said that AS can not afford to keep cycling a 737 in those small towns only to pick up one or two PAX ...

Pax loads don't support those services, cargo loads do. That is why many of these flights are operated by 737-200 Combis, and, soon, 737-400 Combis. I highly doubt you will be seeing QX do Alaska routes.



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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

Flyboy:
I think Horizon is only flying to OAK and SFO until Alaska buys more 737's...I'd be willing to be as soon as Alaska gets more planes, QX will quickly disapear from SFO and OAK so they can fill other routes....


User currently offlineBlackhawk144 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

Hey,

I was surprised about some of the replies. Thank you for answering some of my questions, I noticed some of you also had a few that I'll try to answer best as I can...

AirframeAS,

QX including JetExpress, has 31 flights out of Boise.

S12PPL,

Actually, starting in October, QX (JetExpress) starts service to Little Rock.

ASBOIRR,

I emailed them a while ago about your subject and found this out:
The reason that QX did BOI-SAN/SFO/PHX/DEN just to cancel it, was that it was an experiment after 9-11 that QX did to see if traffic would flow. There is now enough traffic to go to SAN/PHX, SFO wouldn't do because it's a market that's completely taken over by UA.

Also AS has purchased a lot of gates over in BOI, which made me also question that, but your answer intrigues me. I don't know the exact number, but I do know that it was going to be in the new Concourse A, which will add another 10 mainline parking spaces. I assume that some of those could be used for airlines like COexpress who just started here, and North American, who started Maui service in November last year. The Concourse B is overcrowded totally, and the Concourse A will really help out.

The only question I have is when QX was experimenting the routes, why did they do BOI? Why not SEA or PDX? I guess the only reason I can come up with is that those were being served by AS. I have heard too many rumors in BOI it's just driving me crazy, lol Big grin.

Flyboy80,
Yeah, I remember that! I should go to EUG again sometime, but school just starts tomorrow  Sad. Summer's over. I still think that the UA Express is ridiculous, the way they fly around. I've noticed it not only in EUG, but in places such as DSM, where they have something like 16+ CRJ-200s to ORD. I went over to spot at PDX the other day, kind of an unexpected thing, but now that I'm 13 I can fly as a non-rev, lol. I only got to spot for an hour because of loads on the flights. It was a Q400, and it makes me wish it was a -900!

Anthony


User currently offlineSupraZachAir From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Feb 2004, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

The APU on the RJ'S isn't the problem its the Q400 APU the is most useful as ballast. We basically never have to use ground power on the rj's, but the Q400'S always get ground power. Getting rid of the 200's would not make sense; besides, the 200's keep us sane on the ramp (and i use "sane" loosely).

As far as partnering up with another airline (ala F9 JetExpress), its not anything in the current plans, but QX is definitely open to the idea. F9 load factors are outstanding and QX and F9 have got one hell of a partnership going.

Anyone know what the total daily departures is SEA vs. PDX?


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2750 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

One small note:

There is a current (and recurring) debate going on in Snohomish County that surrounds building a terminal at PAE for passenger flights. A recent taskforce recommended the idea. If it happens, QX is looking at starting 3x PAE-PDX flights.

Something to keep an eye on. . .

Hamlet69



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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4223 times:

Blackhawk144: JetExpress is NOT Horizon. It's Frontier, with Horizon crews.

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4117 times:

There is a current (and recurring) debate going on in Snohomish County that surrounds building a terminal at PAE for passenger flights.

Im pretty sure that one of the opponets against this idea is the Port of Seattle.....



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User currently offlineASBOIRR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 3993 times:

Blackhawk;

Interesting. I am surprised QX disclosed that information to you. Seems interesting. They wouldn't experiment out of AS markets. That would make absolutely no sense. If it's true it was just some sort of "experiment" BOI would make most sense because they already had a decent operation there and the market was the right size for limited RJ service to new destinations.

As far as the "A" concourse...I'm not sure where you get your information but I haven't heard any rumors internally in regards to Alaska and the "A" concourse. I would assume if AS pursued further expansion in BOI that our gates would be located in "A". But I understand "A" is several years away. I have heard some rumors that AS may totally take over the BOI station. But that is hard to believe because of the "C" concourse and QX's extensive presence there. I do know under the 2010 plan AS will add or replace QX in BOI-SEA/LAX/PDX. Those are the only markets that could handle AS aircraft. Right now I think a third AS flight to SEA is needed and an AS flight to PDX in the evening would be great as the 5PM is often oversold while the rest of the day is usually less than spectacular. But PDX is getting less and less AS service so who knows what will happen there. LAX is a different ball game as loads vary heavily day by day. So even if AS added these markets that wouldn't take too many gates. Let's say by 2010 AS takes over all those markets there may be six AS flights to SEA, four to PDX, and two to LAX. There's 12 flights. If TANGO continues we would only need two jetways with that. If things really grew at BOI we may need a third jetway but I can't imagine much more than that unless things really bloom at BOI.

As far as other airlines using "A". If CO sticks around I could see a move to "A" only if NW or CO expands but NW would probably still service CO flights. Right now CO has no need to move. In addition, I don't show BOI service to OGG bookable any longer on Hawaiian Vacations yet GEG is still there. Guess they dropped BOI. In a few years I could see AA returning. But with the recently expanded AA/AS agreement I could see them using "C" and being serviced by QX (if BOI is still a QX station at that time) because I'm sure it would be Eagle again.


User currently offlineBlackhawk144 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 3950 times:

ASBOIRR,

Thank you for your reply. I get my information from all sorts of places. The main source as to the placements of gates is on the Master Plan PDF at www.boise-airport.com. It shows a map of what the terminal will look like when it is done, and where the gates, and the parking spaces will be. Also, what did you mean about TANGO? Were they planning on coming here? That surprised me, and the same went for American Eagle. I don't know how the CO flights are, but I heard one person say that they are doing good. I'd like to know how they're doing. Thank you for your reply though.

Anthony


User currently offlineMatthewroy From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 2 hours ago) and read 3907 times:

ASBOIRR-- I'm not sure I'm following you about the AS takeover of the BOI QX station in the future. Are you only talking about SEA, PDX and LAX? What about the flights to LWS, IDA and PIH? Won't QX be staying around for those? What about flights to SUN? Have those become seasonal only or are they dead now with the nonstops from SUN to SEA, LAX and OAK?

I really like flying into BOI on QX. I love AS, but would prefer to be on QX. I miss the nonstop to PHX from BOI. I wish that one would come back. The loads never seemed very good, but then it didn't have all that much time to catch on.



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User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months ago) and read 3861 times:

My two cents from the inside...

1. Will QX get anymore CRJ-700s?

Yes. We changed the latest two CRJ's to Q400's due to costs associated with where the aircraft would be deployed. We have an agreement with Bombardier that says we can do this where we see fit (basically, there's legal jargon I'm sure, but that's in a nutshell). The F9 operation will grow as both compaines are pleased with eachother and the performance hence the need for more CRJ's. We're constantly 'harmonizing' our ops with AS and thus require jets on our mainline also.

2. Will QX go with another airline?

To quote our CEO... "We're always looking for new revenue streams." He didn't say yes, but he didn't say know. In my opinion I'd say we're looking at this passively but not as priority.

3. What will happen to the hubs: PDX, SEA, BOI (hub?)?

Nothing that I've heard of. BOI will not become an all Dash 8 hub at least as far as MTX goes becasue right now they have an F9 Express RON and we regularly schedule MTX on it in BOI.

Someone mentioned (AirframeAS I believe) that PDX was and always will be our biggest hub. UNfortunately that's not true. We operate over 200 flights a day out of SEA and just over 100 from PDX. PDX is however the main MTX base.

4. Will QX ever purchase CRJ-200s, or CRJ-900s?

A solid no on the 200's, a probable no on the 900's.

5. Is QX going to make LAX a hub for them?

Haven't heard anything about that. There is one place I've heard floating around in a rumour for another MTX base but it's nowhere near LAX. I won't say where though, as it's just a rumour.

6. Will QX ever serve smaller Mexican cities in Mexico?

Doubtful, but maybe. Like the boss said "We're always looking..." Our international niche is Canada and it'd be more likely we'd got farther that way, but most likely that more smaller Californian markets will be started if anything. It's taking aircraft too far away from a MTX base flying deep into Mexico - not that I wouldn't like though!  Wink/being sarcastic

Hope this helps...interesting that you all hear more rumours than those of us inside do!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6194 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months ago) and read 3834 times:

S12PPL....unfortunatly QX is here to stay in SFO. They have told us for sure they will not pull out from SFO again.

Blackhawk...I don't know who responded to your e-mail about pulling the plug on BOI-SFO/SAN, but the 9-11 excuse is a load of crap. They had the flights so poorly timed, no one would take it. (Example) a 6:00a SFO-BOI, for what or who? tThen the BOI-SFO flight arriving midafternoon, why? The inbound to SFO had no connections whats so ever. QX flat out told us they mistimed the flight but could not change it due to a/c usage. So they pulled the plug.

Flyboy80.....no CR9's coming. Not unless the contract with the Alaska pilots changes, which won't happen. Its been brought up before within the company of getting CR9's and then flying them for other carriers (i.e Jet Express type of deal), but AS pilots apparently won't allow that large of a plane.

Dash8tech is correct. Don't expect QX to fly Mexico. The looked at Lareto, and Monterrey, but it didn't pan out.

ASSFO



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User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

Whats unfortunate about us staying in SFO As739x? I know we've had some reliability issues in the past. Is it a small aircraft thing or what? Not being snide here, just wondering?

User currently offlineBlackhawk144 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3672 times:

Dash8tech, and As739x...

Thank you very much for your replies. As for the flights being poorly timed, that's what my dad said, which I wasn't sure about so I emailed them about it. I get it now, so thank you on that. Dash8tech, thank you for your long reply. I like long replies, lol Big grin. I think As739 meant to put in fortunately, because I saw what S12PPL had to say:

"I think Horizon is only flying to OAK and SFO until Alaska buys more 737's...I'd be willing to be as soon as Alaska gets more planes, QX will quickly disapear from SFO and OAK so they can fill other routes...."

Anthony


User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1880 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

ASSFO:

I wasn't aware of a clause for QX... I thought they operated more independantly as an actual seperate airline as opposed to a specified regional feeder and also thought that the two airlines were completely seperate in terms of contracts... Could you clarify that for me...your certainly the one to ask you know more than anyone about AS/QX!


User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3552 times:

Yeah Flyboy, there's something in the pilot agreements that says we can't fly more than 70 seats in a jet (we will be taking our Q400's to 74 in the fall  Sad)

Anthony, us flying to SFO, OAK etc etc is part of the continuing "Fleet Harmonization" plan both carriers are invovled with. One example might be in the off-peak periods where a 734 won't fill we step in with a CRJ, thus freeing up that 734 to take the place of a 73G that can then be added to an additional trans-con (which seemingly for AAG done't have an off-peak! Wahoo!) for more capacity. As a specific example starting this Fall we'll be serving Burbank and Ontario with CRJ's instead of AS as demand drops freeing up a 734 to be used on a 3rd SEA-ORD run.

Cheers!


25 Stirling : Don't expect QX to fly Mexico. The looked at Lareto, and Monterrey, but it didn't pan out. Would that be Laredo? Or, Would that be Loreto? Two entirel
26 AirframeAS : I thought they operated more independantly as an actual seperate airline as opposed to a specified regional feeder and also thought that the two airli
27 ASBOIRR : // ASBOIRR-- I'm not sure I'm following you about the AS takeover of the BOI QX station in the future. Are you only talking about SEA, PDX and LAX? Wh
28 Post contains images Blackhawk144 : ASBOIRR, Oops, lol, I thought you meant Air Canada Tango, silly me. That why I said you surprised me by saying Tango was coming. Sorry bout that, I ge
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