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Re Entry Of The AZ MD-11  
User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Posted (10 years 1 month 4 days ago) and read 5665 times:

Hey

Becuse i am AlitaliaMD11 i thought that i should post this.

Does any one no when they plane to bring them back to sevice and on what routes? or if they are still going to bring them back? thanks

I think it would be great to see them again now that swiss is only opperating one. Maybe ORD would be a destanation?



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User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days ago) and read 5638 times:

I understand only two are being returned to service, is that correct?

User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5543 times:

This topic might be of interest to you: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1626373.

"They are planning to reintroduce only the 5 MDD-11 Combi, since the 3 all pax were sold to LH Cargo. But as other people mentioned it's only a temporary solution in the mean time B763 got the new configuration and new planes will join the fleet."
(Reply #21)

 Smile
-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5534 times:

I saw the stored MD-11s (plus the A300s) at CIA last week, next to which were the 3 GH DC-10s.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2430 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5528 times:


Hi, the last issue of "AW" reported only the re-introduction of 2 not 5 MD11CF- any comments??


User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5504 times:

Funny how the PAX versions were sold to LH to be converted to (F) config.. You would think they'd go for the Combi models first. Does having the cargo door aft make that big of a difference?


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User currently offlineBobs89irocz From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 632 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5440 times:

Would be nice to see it at ORD again.....i saw the SWISS MD-11 about a week ago here at ORD when i was trying to get on a flight to DFW. I made sure i got to the window very fast to see its departure. I think that is going to be the last time i see a SWISS MD-11......hope not but i live over an hour away now so i dont get the opertunity anymore to see the cool birds.

User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4750 posts, RR: 45
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5426 times:

Pe@rson-

Funny you saw them at CIA seeings as there are no Alitalia planes at CIA.

Perhaps you are confusing which airport you were at? Last I checked, the AZ M11M's, along with the A300's and the GH DC10's were all at the more well known, bigger Roman airport - Fiumicino (FCO).



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User currently offlineMatt777 From Cayman Islands, joined Oct 2001, 503 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5416 times:

They will start M1M operations on November 3rd 2004, on MXP-DEL daily.
The MXP-BOM will remain a 763 route untill March 26th 2005 then it will be changed to a M1M.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5415 times:

Sorry, FCO. In FR mode - again.  Wink/being sarcastic


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9833 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5255 times:

When will SWISS dispose of their last MD11? Do they only have one MD11 flying at the moment? I bought the SWISS MD11 dvd from justplanes and it's just fantastic. I was planning to go plane spotting in ZRH next month and was hoping to see the SWISS MD11. Is the spectator's terrace still open in ZRH? Any info on this is welcome.

Regards A388


User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4512 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5217 times:

was at FCO in july and saw some AZ MD-11s hanging around.

According to their magazine, the MD-11 is still part of the fleet.

According to the timetable, there are no routes scheduled for MD-11 service.



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User currently offlineDabzf From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5177 times:

Funny how the PAX versions were sold to LH to be converted to (F) config.. You would think they'd go for the Combi models first. Does having the cargo door aft make that big of a difference?

Yes, reason is that Combis has the cargo door in the back of the a/c - which is very uncomfortable for a/c which is tail heavy when on ground! Even having the door in front is causing some problems and a very strict (un-)loading sequence must be adhered to!

LH Cargo want's to have the door in front of the a/c as they have it in the already existing 14 x MD11F's!



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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5173 times:

A388, As far as I know Swiss have a single MD-11 that operates on their daily ORD flights. Flight LX8 departs ZRH at 10:10, returning back on 08:10. They will start using the A332 on the route at the start of the winter season, so you need to hurry if you want to get a few pics.

Hope this helps

Horus



[Edited 2004-08-22 23:58:02]


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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9833 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5131 times:

Thanks for the info Horus. As usual, I can count on you. Thanks again, I hope to be able to go to ZRH next month for one day to go aircraft spotting. I love the SWISS livery. I have a feeling tickets for one day will be very expensive though  Sad

A388


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5104 times:

Always happy to help A388. I 100% agree that ticket prices to ZRH tend to be high. Going there for a few days is expensive enough, so I can only imagine how expensive a day return will be. Anyhow I hope you have a great time and hope to see some of your photos of the DB...Don't let us down  Big thumbs up

Horus

p.s. I think the LX c/s is nice, but I have to admit it took me time to get used to it...I was/am a big Swissair fan.




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User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5103 times:

When will SWISS dispose of their last MD11? Do they only have one MD11 flying at the moment?
According to this topic,
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1701483, "the last Swiss MD11 flight will leave ZRH on the 30OCT04 to ORD and will leave it's last operation from ORD to ZRH where [it] will arrive on the 31OCT04."

 Smile
-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9833 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5092 times:

You are right Horus. The SWISS livery also had to grow on me, but now I like it. It is still very Swiss-like. And you are right about the prices. I checked the SWISS website and a one-day trip would cost me 460.94 euros. KLM charges 573.94 euros pfffff. All of a sudden I'm not sure about doing this trip. Time will tell...  Sad

A388


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5079 times:

A388

you should check

www.opodo.com

it has very cheap and low fares for instant i am flying IB b class for 195 with my dad for the whole trip. Very cheap. And I flew to SCQ for 87.00 for my dad and i.




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User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7584 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4736 times:

It is a bit sad that, even though AZ is bringing 2 MD-11's to service, there are no plans to serve MEX. I really hope that either AZ or AM start non-stop service between Mexico and Italy soon.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineAntonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4639 times:

the md11 combi must be a nightmare to load
its already very tail heavy
and to have cargo only in the rear section assuming its there before the pax board must throw the c of g well back


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