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Beech Starship - Why Did It Fail?  
User currently offlineBlackened From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

What are the reasons behind the sad story of such a remarkable aircraft. Are those Starships stored/scrapped in the desert brand new ones they didn't sell?

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User currently offlineKictbrit From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3607 times:

Basically it failed due to economics.

It cost as much a small biz jet and finished up heavier than the original design weight. Also it carried two people less than the Beech Super King Air which it was supposed to replace.

All the aircraft in the desert are aircraft that Raytheon has purchased back from the owners or had there leases terminated by Raytheon.

There is a good article in the current Smithsonian Air & Space magzine about the Starship.

Dave


User currently offlineType-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3586 times:

And there is one in pretty good shape sitting at the Museum of Flight Restoration Center in Everett, WA. An amazing bird. While I have never flown one, I have seen them fly at various times over the years. That design was way out there on the edge for many years.

User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3420 times:

I heard that Beechcraft bought back most of the frames because they were too costly to maintain. I believe they were built of all composites, and retired for much the same reason as the Concord...the manufacture stopped providing support. A shame, the Beech 2000 was a beautiful machine.

User currently offlineStearmanNut From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

I don't see why the military didn't take on the surplus Starships for some personnel transport use. Even though they be costly to maintain, what diff does it make when the miltary regularly buys $800 toilet seats and $2,000 hammers.


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User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3077 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3274 times:
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I don't see why the military didn't take on the surplus Starships for some personnel transport use. Even though they be costly to maintain, what diff does it make when the miltary regularly buys $800 toilet seats and $2,000 hammers.

Mostly because Raytheon had already destroyed most of the back-stock of parts and destroyed the jigs and tools to make those parts... and is very soon going to finish off the remaining airframes that are currently in the desert. It's a very sad end to a revolutionary design. Raytheon/Beech tried to sell both the USAF and Immigration/Border Patrol on buying some 2000s for a long time, for VIP use and/or border patrol, but obviously neither was interested.



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7811 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

While a nice looking plane and a great technology test bed... it was probably too far ahead of the curve. A Cessna CJ1 or CJ2 pretty much matches its mission profile and is cheaper overall. While corporate aircraft can become toys for well paid executives... eventually the common sense of the accountants kick in.


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User currently offlineAreopagus From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1374 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

Well, at least one Starship is still in use as a chase aircraft for Rutan's Spaceship 1. The three chase planes - Extra 300, Beech Starship and the AlphaJet - perform a victory pass after flight 15P.


User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2194 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3141 times:

Blackened:

The cover article for this month's Air&Space Smithsonian magazine is all about the Beech Starship. Goes into the history in good detail. Pick up a copy if you can:

http://www.airandspacemagazine.com/ASM/Mag/latest.html
http://www.airandspacemagazine.com/asm/Mag/Index/2004/AS/Contents.html


User currently offlineWGW2707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1197 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3074 times:

My grandfather was heavily involved in the design of the Starship as Tally Corp. was a major Beech contracter apparently...he used to tell stories about it...very interesting.

I am infuriated that Raytheon is trying to destroy the majority of Starship airframes.

-WGW2707


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