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DL MD80 Layouts WHY 3-2 Vs. 2-3  
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4763 posts, RR: 44
Posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3609 times:

Most MD80 operators have 2-3 economy layouts. Why did DL put the 3 seat rows on the left...


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User currently offlineDsuairptman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 904 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3567 times:

Dunno why, but it makes for a good question, Why?


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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3546 times:

Isn't it the other way around? I thought that it was 2 on the left (if you are standing in First Class looking to the back) and 3 on the right (it's the opposite on the MD-90)...it is a good question...I've often wondered this myself as well...not that I'm complaining, I'll take the two side anytime of day (that's why I love the MD-80 so much)

Jeff


User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3531 times:

If I said they did it simply to give the peoples of airliners.net something to talk about would anyone believe me?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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User currently offlineWidgetBoi From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1432 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3531 times:

Delta wanted a larger rear galley.

jeremy


User currently offlineCAL From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 499 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3477 times:

WidgetBoi,
That is actually the best answer to this I have heard , and I bet it correct. I will tell you that if you ask FA's what's the worst part of the MD80's it will be the back galley, I agree 100%.



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User currently offlineAviaction From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 256 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

Unless my memory fails me entirely, also Swissair had chosen the 3-2 version for their fleet. The reason behind it was, as WidgetBoi has already stated, to be able to install a larger galley in the aft section.

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User currently offlineJFKLGAflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3257 times:

Although I am sure WidgetBoi is correct, I think I have to agree with CanadianNorth on this one!  Nuts


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User currently offlineEAL727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3212 times:

Not only does this configuration provide for a larger aft galley, but it makes catering easier as well. With the galley on the opposite side, the catering truck must either compete with the baggage handlers on the right side of the aircraft or else cross the aisle of the aircraft by using the left side door.


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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3057 times:

I had wondered about this as well, as the one and only time I flew on a DL MD-88, I was curious why the seat setup was backwards than what the typical MDD layout is.

User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3038 times:

Same with IB: 2-3 on the MD88 and 3-2 on the MD87.

User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3018 times:

My last flight on the DC9/MD80 series was on DL...............and as it turned out what I thought was going to be an aisle seat was the dreaded middle seat, but it was a 20 minute flight so no biggie.


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User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1685 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 21 hours ago) and read 2871 times:
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Alaska Airlines also has the three on the left and the two on the right in their MD-80s when facing forward.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4518 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

Unless my memory fails me entirely, also Swissair had chosen the 3-2 version for their fleet. The reason behind it was, as WidgetBoi has already stated, to be able to install a larger galley in the aft section.

i can't speak for all of SR's MD-80s, but I used to fly ZRH-LCA on Swissair all the time in the early 90's and the layout was always 2-3.



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User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7394 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

the AZ M80s I just flew on were both 2 on left 3 on right, I take it that is the norm. Still I enjoyed going up the back stairs between engine.!

User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 11 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

AA M82s have TWO rear galleries

AA M83s (ex-TW) have only ONE rear gallery

just my quick observation, thanks




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User currently offlineAviaction From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 256 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 2630 times:

I am relieved, there is nothing wrong with my memory. Finally it occured to me that there simply had to be a pic on file, showing the Swissair cabin configuration. And, there is, clearly showing their 3-2 seating.


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User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5310 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 6 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

All MD-80s come with a port service door for access for catering trucks, so as not to interfere with baggage handling. But, because most airlines have used the 2-3 configuration, two narrow galleys have to be installed, especially if planes have on-board meal service, or the carrier likes to double cater a flight for fast turnarounds.

Having sat in the last row of an AA MD-80, there is some moving between the galleys, which appeared to be a major annoyance for the F/As.

For DL, putting the seats in a 3-2 configuration means having a one wider galley, about the same width as the rear galley on a 727-200s. Besides having a galley that has a similar layout to other aircraft types, it also allows DL to put a few extra seats in the cabin.


User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4518 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

now you've got me thinking back to 10 years ago.

they might have had both.

i remember going to geneva for my sister's wedding and i remember that my parents and I were all sitting on the left hand side, so that must have been 3.

but i clearly remember going to larnaca and sitting by myself on the left with only one chair next to me...unfilled. i was eating Swissair's veal and was trying to eat it professionally (as a 10 year old I was amused by such things).



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