Sbe727 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2001, 390 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1832 times:
HI THERE,
Not sure if been discussed before, but just wondered how many more years the 737-200 has left to operate in the uk with the noise restrictions and that.
Also
What is the operating cost of the 737-200 compared to the 737-300.
CanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3354 posts, RR: 12 Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1800 times:
I don't think there is many years left for the 732 operating out of larger modern airports as the newer 737s can do the same job while costing less to operate/maintain aswell as being more modern and quieter.
But in more remote places (such as Northwest Territories and Nunavut) I think there is years left in the 732, as it can operate from short runways and gravel runways, something newer 737s and the A320s can not do, which makes the added cost to operate/maintain worth it.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 10143 posts, RR: 66 Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1667 times:
On the whole I think it will be mainly smaller airlines, mainly in so called "third world" countries who operate the 737-200 series, the cost to purchase these aircraft is minimal and there's plenty of spares out there. If your looking to see or fly them in the UK then your best bet is to go to Bournemouth where Palmair operate several flights a day, or you could always try your luck with Ryanair! Noise restrictions may be a problem, but as long as the aircraft are fitted with the latest hush kits and are well maintained then we should see them around for another 3-5 years in the UK.
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 53 Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1632 times:
As with anything else, it depends mainly on the condition of the plane (i.e hours, cycles, and hours to cycles ratio as well as how well the plane was maintained). The 73S remained in production until 1988 or '89 if I recall. That means that there are many 757's, 767's, and MD-80's that are older.
The Achilles Heel on the 737-200 is the fact that all were delivered with Stage 2 engines. If you were to hushkit and/or put new, quiet(er) engines on it, then theoretically the -200 should be fit to fly for at least another 10-15 years.
LVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 51 Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1590 times:
The last 737-200 rolled off the line in 1988, 21 years after the first! They are still operated in sizeable numbers in Latin America, with:
Aero Continente (Peru)
Aerolíneas Argentinas/Austral
AVIACSA (Mexico)
COPA Airlines (Panama)
LAN Chile/Express
PLUNA (Uruguay)
SKY Airlines (Chile)
Southern Winds-Federales (Argentina)
TANS Peru
VASP (Brazil)
...plus AeroSur (Bolivia), American Falcon (Argentina), Avior (Venezuela), RICO (Brazil) and RUTACA (Venezuela). They'll probably continue flying in the region for the rest of this decade and a few into the next.
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 29818 posts, RR: 61 Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1453 times:
Out here Only Alliance Air operates B732s which could be soon phased out & replaced by A319s.
The other B732 operators are the IAF which would replace these when Alliance does.
And Blue Dart which is operating with 5 B732 Freighters.
regds
HAWK
BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1270 times:
There are some 737-200s out there that are from 1983 so I don't imagine them going anywhere for awhile. Some are only 21 years old. There are some DC9s out there that are 38.
VSIVARIES From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 108 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1198 times:
They still operate a fair bit around China too. Last one I was on (March 2004) went from Jinan (TNA) to Guangzhou (CAN), but can remember a few recently.
A bit old and tattered but China eastern do seem to look after the important parts well.
Distinctive engine shape looks like someting out of 'Thunderbirds'.
(PS. No disrespect to China Eastern mind - They also fly A340-600's etc.)
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LVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 51 Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1203 times:
BR715......:
The youngest 737-200s are just 16 years old, remember.
ARGinMIA:
I'm not sure who is the largest (what with all the cut-backs in North America), but AR/AU still operate a combined fleet of 32 of the old birds, so they must be one of the Top 3...
MidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 33 Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1172 times:
I remember reading that Alaska Air was going to phase out their 737-200's by 2008.
Speedbird128 From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 932 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1111 times:
Come on down to South Africa. There are many of the -200's in service here. Of the local carriers, I think only SAA have immediate plans to retire theirs from service - to be replaced by A319's (the first of which should have arrived on 24/08).
There are still several 727's flying around here too.
Many people perceive SA to be a dumping ground for the non-Stage III compliant aircraft, as I believe there to be no noise pollution penalties or regulations/restrictions.
Starlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 14992 posts, RR: 69 Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1094 times:
Spoke to the pilot after my CAE->ATL flight tonight. Although he was a huge MD-88 fan, having transitioned from there, he did enjoy the Jurassic 737 a lot. However, Delta will retire them in 2005-6 according to him and the First Officer. I for one will miss those wing hanging Zeppelins!
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WindowSeat From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1305 posts, RR: 63 Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1084 times:
There are some 737-200s out there that are from 1983 so I don't imagine them going anywhere for awhile. Some are only 21 years old. There are some DC9s out there that are 38.
Great point! Not just the 732s, but other aircraft types we see today, like the 757 are 20 yrs old. (at least some of them)
Btw, Delta also still flies the 732. Was on one a couple months ago.
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Carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2559 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1038 times:
There is only a handful of 732s in China and in Asia as a whole. Air Nippon got rid of their last ones a few years ago.
DL and Westjet's 732s will be around for some time, as the former is not in any position to do a one-for-one replacement anytime soon.
I believe Europe has a stricter noise requirement, so they will be forced out soon.
However, they will be common in Africa and developing parts of the world for many years to come.
Aloha73g From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2246 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 982 times:
Aloha has 14 732s that they use for their ultra-short high-frequency flights as well as their interisland cargo flights. They are relaible and according to Aloha, will be around for a while.
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