Sbe727 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2001, 390 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1288 times:
HI THERE,
Not sure if been discussed before, but just wondered how many more years the 737-200 has left to operate in the uk with the noise restrictions and that.
Also
What is the operating cost of the 737-200 compared to the 737-300.
CanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3150 posts, RR: 15 Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1256 times:
I don't think there is many years left for the 732 operating out of larger modern airports as the newer 737s can do the same job while costing less to operate/maintain aswell as being more modern and quieter.
But in more remote places (such as Northwest Territories and Nunavut) I think there is years left in the 732, as it can operate from short runways and gravel runways, something newer 737s and the A320s can not do, which makes the added cost to operate/maintain worth it.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 7644 posts, RR: 62 Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1123 times:
On the whole I think it will be mainly smaller airlines, mainly in so called "third world" countries who operate the 737-200 series, the cost to purchase these aircraft is minimal and there's plenty of spares out there. If your looking to see or fly them in the UK then your best bet is to go to Bournemouth where Palmair operate several flights a day, or you could always try your luck with Ryanair! Noise restrictions may be a problem, but as long as the aircraft are fitted with the latest hush kits and are well maintained then we should see them around for another 3-5 years in the UK.
Matt D From United States, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 54 Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1088 times:
As with anything else, it depends mainly on the condition of the plane (i.e hours, cycles, and hours to cycles ratio as well as how well the plane was maintained). The 73S remained in production until 1988 or '89 if I recall. That means that there are many 757's, 767's, and MD-80's that are older.
The Achilles Heel on the 737-200 is the fact that all were delivered with Stage 2 engines. If you were to hushkit and/or put new, quiet(er) engines on it, then theoretically the -200 should be fit to fly for at least another 10-15 years.
LVZXV From Bolivia, joined Mar 2004, 1959 posts, RR: 50 Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1046 times:
The last 737-200 rolled off the line in 1988, 21 years after the first! They are still operated in sizeable numbers in Latin America, with:
Aero Continente (Peru)
Aerolíneas Argentinas/Austral
AVIACSA (Mexico)
COPA Airlines (Panama)
LAN Chile/Express
PLUNA (Uruguay)
SKY Airlines (Chile)
Southern Winds-Federales (Argentina)
TANS Peru
VASP (Brazil)
...plus AeroSur (Bolivia), American Falcon (Argentina), Avior (Venezuela), RICO (Brazil) and RUTACA (Venezuela). They'll probably continue flying in the region for the rest of this decade and a few into the next.
A340600 From United Kingdom (England), joined Aug 2003, 3973 posts, RR: 57 Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1020 times:
Come to LGW, 6 or 7 732s a day here, hopefully i'm gunna get on one in Oct,
Cheers
Sam
Cabin Crew, Boeing Widebody Fleet- B747-400, B767-300ER, B777-200ER
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 26966 posts, RR: 56 Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 909 times:
Out here Only Alliance Air operates B732s which could be soon phased out & replaced by A319s.
The other B732 operators are the IAF which would replace these when Alliance does.
And Blue Dart which is operating with 5 B732 Freighters.
regds
HAWK
BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 726 times:
There are some 737-200s out there that are from 1983 so I don't imagine them going anywhere for awhile. Some are only 21 years old. There are some DC9s out there that are 38.
VSIVARIES From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 108 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 654 times:
They still operate a fair bit around China too. Last one I was on (March 2004) went from Jinan (TNA) to Guangzhou (CAN), but can remember a few recently.
A bit old and tattered but China eastern do seem to look after the important parts well.
Distinctive engine shape looks like someting out of 'Thunderbirds'.
(PS. No disrespect to China Eastern mind - They also fly A340-600's etc.)
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LVZXV From Bolivia, joined Mar 2004, 1959 posts, RR: 50 Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 659 times:
BR715......:
The youngest 737-200s are just 16 years old, remember.
ARGinMIA:
I'm not sure who is the largest (what with all the cut-backs in North America), but AR/AU still operate a combined fleet of 32 of the old birds, so they must be one of the Top 3...
MidnightMike From United States, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 32 Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 628 times:
I remember reading that Alaska Air was going to phase out their 737-200's by 2008.
Speedbird128 From South Africa, joined Oct 2003, 759 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 567 times:
Come on down to South Africa. There are many of the -200's in service here. Of the local carriers, I think only SAA have immediate plans to retire theirs from service - to be replaced by A319's (the first of which should have arrived on 24/08).
There are still several 727's flying around here too.
Many people perceive SA to be a dumping ground for the non-Stage III compliant aircraft, as I believe there to be no noise pollution penalties or regulations/restrictions.
Starlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 13369 posts, RR: 65 Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 550 times:
Spoke to the pilot after my CAE->ATL flight tonight. Although he was a huge MD-88 fan, having transitioned from there, he did enjoy the Jurassic 737 a lot. However, Delta will retire them in 2005-6 according to him and the First Officer. I for one will miss those wing hanging Zeppelins!
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WindowSeat From United States, joined Sep 2003, 1267 posts, RR: 63 Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 540 times:
There are some 737-200s out there that are from 1983 so I don't imagine them going anywhere for awhile. Some are only 21 years old. There are some DC9s out there that are 38.
Great point! Not just the 732s, but other aircraft types we see today, like the 757 are 20 yrs old. (at least some of them)
Btw, Delta also still flies the 732. Was on one a couple months ago.
cheers
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Carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2276 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 494 times:
There is only a handful of 732s in China and in Asia as a whole. Air Nippon got rid of their last ones a few years ago.
DL and Westjet's 732s will be around for some time, as the former is not in any position to do a one-for-one replacement anytime soon.
I believe Europe has a stricter noise requirement, so they will be forced out soon.
However, they will be common in Africa and developing parts of the world for many years to come.
Aloha73g From United States, joined Jul 2003, 2122 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 438 times:
Aloha has 14 732s that they use for their ultra-short high-frequency flights as well as their interisland cargo flights. They are relaible and according to Aloha, will be around for a while.
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BENNETT123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 4452 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 406 times:
A340600
What spotting locations are there at LGW.
I thought that the roof terrace was closed.
Apart from European Aviation/Palmair and Ryanair, are any 732's still flying in Europe.
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