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B777-223 , 212 , What's The Difference?  
User currently offlineKLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 812 posts, RR: 22
Posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4583 times:

Can anyone explane to me what are these differences in the exact
same aircraft types?
e.g. for airbus: A330-223, 330-243, 330-201 etc.
for boeing: 777-223, 777-21H, 777-212, 777-228 etc

This might be a stupid question, but I'd like to think I'm here to learn!!!


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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4540 times:


Hi!

The numbers in the Airbus hare related with the type of engines and maybe other particular issues, in the Boeing the numbers are a way to classify their clients, for example:

21 used to be for PAN AM
31 used to be for TWA
82 is for TAP
41 is for VARIG

So this means that for example VARIG buys a brand new 777-300ER it will be a 777-341ER, got it?
Regards


User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4531 times:

I thought it had something to do with the Engine designation?

Mark



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User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4505 times:

I have always wondered but never thought much about it, but thanks for clearing it up for me.

User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4482 times:

Try this link. It lists all the boeing customer number

http://www.plane-spotter.com/Aircraft/Boeing/Customer_numbers.htm#N

Enjoy

DeltaWings




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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4483 times:


Hi.

In the Airbus I think it is, for example TAP they have their A319/320/321 with CFM engines so the models are A319-111, A320-214 and A321-211. If you see for example BA they have IAE engines and their models are A319-131, A320-232 and A321-231.
Regards


User currently offlineYokohama1970 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 199 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4404 times:

try this link

http://www.plane-spotter.com/Aircraft/Boeing/Customer_numbers.htm#N

Tom



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User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

thanks yokohama1970.

I dont know why my link didnt work

DeltaWings



Homer: Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen.
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4160 times:

I thought it had something to do with the Engine designation?

With Airbuses it [partially] does.... it doesn't with Boeings.


For example, G-VIIO and G-YMMA are both 777-223ERs, even though the former is GE90-powered and the latter uses Trent800s.

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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5311 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (9 years 12 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

For example, G-VIIO and G-YMMA are both 777-223ERs, even though the former is GE90-powered and the latter uses Trent800s.

Think you will find they are both 777-236ERs!  Smile


User currently onlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5025 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (9 years 12 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3920 times:

For Airbus: the three numbers, in e.g. the -211 in A320-211 have the following meaning:

-first number is the sub-model of the aircraft: in the above example an A320-200
-second number is the engine manufacturer: 0 is GE, 1 is CFM, 2 is P&W, 3 is IAE, 4 is RR. I believe 5 will be the Engine Alliance (A380)
-third number indicates the versions of the model, after minor technical changes, or newer engine versions, higher MTOW, etc...


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3871 times:

SAS former B763 "Boeingnumber" is 83 IIRC (SK 767-383ER for example)...

Correct me if I´m wrong Big grin

Micke/SE



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17015 posts, RR: 67
Reply 12, posted (9 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3815 times:

Boeing and Airbus Codes can be found here, as well as other useful stuff:

http://www.rosboch.net/aviation#Codes (Shameless self promotion.  Big grin)

Solnabo, you are correct. SAS customer number at Boeing is 83.



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User currently offlineFRALIM From Germany, joined Jun 2003, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

So does that mean that the number changes when a Boeing Aircraft is sold to another airline? Or will it always keep the client-number of the first customer?

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17015 posts, RR: 67
Reply 14, posted (9 years 12 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3770 times:

So does that mean that the number changes when a Boeing Aircraft is sold to another airline? Or will it always keep the client-number of the first customer?

The plane will keep the client number of the first customer.

It can also be more complicated. The number designates to which airline's specs the plane was built. So if airline A ordered it but for some reason the aircraft, while being produced, gets taken up by airline B (merger, decision on part of A to not purchase the planes) the version number may be that of airline A even though airline B takes delivery from Boeing.

Hope that was confusing enough  Big grin



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 12 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

Think you will find they are both 777-236ERs!

Yeah that, my bad Big grin


User currently offlineMindscape From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3439 times:

Thanks guys for all your explanations !
But I have one question left regarding Airbus codification on A320.
Indeed, as Scorpio has explained, the first number is the sub-model of the aircraft; but what is the difference between A320-100 and A320-200 models ?
For the other Airbus family (e.g A330-A340), main difference between -200/300/500/600 concerns the capacity and therefore also the length of the aircraft. But what about the A320 family as the length are declining in 318/319/320/321 ?


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12091 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3421 times:
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Air NZs Boeing customer number is 19. When the new B777 and B7E7s arrive then it will be B777-219ER and B7E7-819.

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

and B7E7-819.

Maybe not.

There's a general sentiment that Boeing will abandon the custom-model system (and therefore, the customer numbering system) with the 7E7.


User currently offlineSASbraathens From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3204 times:

A320-100 doesn't have winglets, -200 does...

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