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Air Jamaica Adds More North American Cities...  
User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Posted (10 years 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 5692 times:

Air Jamaica continues to add more North American cities, by putting SFO and YVR on its network, hopefully 1st quarter 2005. They are acquiring 2 A319's for these routes. They are also getting an additional A340 to supplement the three they already have on routes like LHR, MAN and KIN.

I think it would be great to see JM colors on an A319. I am curious to see what their configuration would be like to. Typically the A319 is configured F12 Y108. The A320 is usually configured F16 Y126, but JM's planes are configured F12 Y138.

Apparently because of the range the A319's were better suited for the routes than the A320 they currently have. A small but very capable airliner, the A319 is.

There isn't any link online with this information to my knowledge. I work for a handling company and we handle JM in GND, and a JM exec passed this information onto us. If this information hasn't been released yet, I assume it will be soon..


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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9664 posts, RR: 68
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 5638 times:
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Air Jamaica to YVR?

Source please Big grin


User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 5619 times:

Thats if Transport doesnt ban them from Canada yet again...Another find by customs like the one they had a few weeks ago should be enough to get them booted...


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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 5600 times:

HAHA to Clickhappy, that was funny.  Smile

It would be a shame to get banned from Canada again.. They just got approval to fly into the country at least into YYZ. Poor them.. LOL

As I said, I wish I had a link to post, but this was passed on by word of mouth from a JM guy this morning at a training session we had. SO I am just telling you as heard it.

Remeber I told you guys a C3 exec told me about the Canada 3000 thing? Same situation here..  Smile IS C3 still coming out though?



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User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 5588 times:

YVR-Jamaica. The route can be called the Ganja/Weed Run.


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User currently offlineDYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 5587 times:

Air Jamaica into Vancouver would be feasible. There is a market into Jamaica from Vancouver but I also think Jamaica wants to make it easier for Asians to travel to Jamaica and Vancouver works as a gateway. There was talk of Cuban into Vancouver few years back,but not sure what has happened with that.


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User currently offlineCayman From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 5576 times:

An associate who does some work for JM told me they might work on code shares with AC to Asia, or at least ticketing arrangements--probably through YYZ though.

User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6196 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 5519 times:

Any links to an actual source?

ASSFO



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User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 11 hours ago) and read 5299 times:

JM was actually going to start SFO service in 96/97. I remember seeing TV Commercials and print adds detailing the service. Then, nothing happened. I think they added LAX service around that time.


John@SFO
User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 11 hours ago) and read 5292 times:

How can they fly an A319 to SFO and YVR? Thats gotta be beyond the limits!

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33287 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 11 hours ago) and read 5284 times:

How can they fly an A319 to SFO and YVR? Thats gotta be beyond the limits!

The A319 is designed to fly long, thin routes. Air Canada has used them on very long routes from Vancouver to DC, Boston, Miami, and Cancun.



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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4851 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 10 hours ago) and read 5226 times:

why was Air Jamaica banned from Canada?

User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 5149 times:

SFO and YVR?

EveryTING airee in Air Jamaica mon. Dee parteeee just geTING started noh?



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User currently offlineAirfrancejfk From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 480 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 5051 times:

Speaking of JM, does anyone know whats up with the A340 "Spirit of New York". Lately it seems to be just that, as the aircraft hasnt left JFK in days.



User currently offlineKim777fan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 5043 times:

The Airbus website states the A319 has a range of 3700 nm. YVR to MBJ is listed as 3279 statute miles, so it looks as though the A319 is up to the task range-wise.

User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5620 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 2 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

A 4th A340? That's gotta be for YYZ or possibly bump on the LAX run.... A few months ago, they almost went to 2 daily trips on 3 days of the week.

BN747



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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4188 times:

This is great. first, NZ, comes, than TG is supposedly showing up, EK supposedly starting service, and now JM!!! This is great. A great splash of color to SFO. 2005 is looking good for SFO.

-Copa


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5620 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3927 times:

And Vietnam Airlines ... Copa! You lucky SOBs!


BN747



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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3920 times:

BN747-Yeah, man, I forgot about that one. That is definitely a beauty coming in. All these new additions @ SFO are really exciting. Now...maybe JM will extend the SFO flight up here to ACV.....

-Copa

ACV is Eureka/Arcata isnt it?


User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3883 times:



Where is the A340 coming from??



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User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

This is good news for JM. And with the Category 1 status at Jamaica, the national airline can easily expand. Now if only the situation could change with the caribbean island in the south so the green airline could do some North American expansions (you guys know what I mean...).  Wink/being sarcastic


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User currently offlineCaymanair From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2004, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3723 times:

I really wish Bwee could expand just the same. They are such a good airline, and they have tried so hard to succeed. But there is no Trinidadian or Bajan Butch Stewart to go bully any governments for bwee.

User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3685 times:

I think JM has some good things going for it.

-They belong to a country that has a pretty healthy tourism industry.
-They fly to islands who are also known for tourism.
-They have a adventurous CEO, who owns a popular hotel chain, and the two work hand in hand.
-They have very strong marketing, and are building for themselves a reputation in North America and the Caribbean alike.

So despite the fact that they are said to be loosing more money that BWIA, they will continue to fly, though at Jamaican's taxpayers expense. They government of Jamaica would not let the airline disappear so easily because it contributes to carrying a significant amount of tourists to and from Jamaica each year. JM Is a private airline therefore, there accounts are not the most available thing. (this is just from my understanding.)

BW on the other hand, is the national airline of an island that is not very big on tourists. So the typical tourists destination/cities may not be for BW at this stage. Business routes may be extremely profitable. BW Does well on most of their routes. However they are not as popular to non West Indians as Air Jamaica, because they do not advertise as aggressively. Added to that, they are publicly traded so their accounts is for all to see, and is the topic of conversation for all. So their financial troubles are a bit overrated.

With POS in CAT2 status, it hinders BW from expanding to more North American cities.

They are however doing much better financially, and their current situation is looking quite remediable. CAT1 would give them the world, if they want it.

This is my understanding of the two airlines current status.



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User currently offlineILSApproach From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

Wish they would come to MSP........LOL. I'll still make the trip to ORD and fly them to MBJ as I have been doing for years.

AA F100 MSP/ORD.......JM A320 ORD/MBJ.


User currently offlineBobs89irocz From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 632 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3640 times:

Actually Air Jam. sends the A321 to ORD. At least they did last winter when i was fueling out there. I moved about an hour and a half away so i dont know anymore since that flight came in so late anyways.

25 Jayce : This is great news! A friend of mine was just commenting the other day how it was odd that AC has a seasonal flight from YYC to Jamaica, but nothing o
26 ILSApproach : Bobs89...............it's always been A320 for me from ORD. I don't doubt you one minute. Was that a daily A321 or just in winter? Anyone one know whe
27 Kim777fan : "BW on the other hand, is the national airline of an island that is not very big on tourists." However, I have to believe that Trinidad certainly has
28 ILSApproach : I usually check Flytecomm for ORD everyday...........they've been showing A320's MBJ/ORD/MBJ as long as I can remember. Wish I could catch one of thos
29 DYK : Kim777fan "As far as YVR to the Caribbean, I would think that if JM is even THINKING about that route that AC would quickly move and try to beat them
30 FLYYUL : "Air Canada and Transport Canada work hard to impede tourism and trade form airports other than YYZ and YUL " -What leads you to this hypothesis?
31 Captaink : When JM was under ban from flying to YYZ, AC operated their flight YYZ/KIN codeshared with JM. JM now has their privelidges restored, but this agreeme
32 DYK : FLYYUL My hypothesis is based on - 90 % of all bilateral agreements favour Montreal and over 84% favour Toronto (cta-otc.gc.ca see agreements) -carrie
33 ERJ170 : Why can't JM do a Sat-Sun flight to RDU? a once daily.. I think that would work? Maybe????
34 Jm017 : I have a couple questions: 1. Why ws JM banned from Canada? All these years I had the impression they chose to code share with AC on the YYZ route, no
35 BWIA 772 : I do not know if we will see BWIA expand this sort of way unless the airline is able to transform it self into the AirTran of the Caribbean. The gover
36 JMISLANDMAN : Regarding the MD80s they were originally used on the JFK-BGI route. They were then deployed to Chicago, Nassau, Havana, Newark and Atlanta.
37 PlaneGuy27 : I wonder if they ever will start MBJ-IAD service? They announced the service right before 9/11 and then axed it.
38 Ny-jfk-lga : That's great for JM, good luck to them with their expansion. I can't go without sayin' though, I still love my BWIA. "We Are The Caribbean"
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