Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5116 posts, RR: 11 Posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5981 times:
Air Jamaica continues to add more North American cities, by putting SFO and YVR on its network, hopefully 1st quarter 2005. They are acquiring 2 A319's for these routes. They are also getting an additional A340 to supplement the three they already have on routes like LHR, MAN and KIN.
I think it would be great to see JM colors on an A319. I am curious to see what their configuration would be like to. Typically the A319 is configured F12 Y108. The A320 is usually configured F16 Y126, but JM's planes are configured F12 Y138.
Apparently because of the range the A319's were better suited for the routes than the A320 they currently have. A small but very capable airliner, the A319 is.
There isn't any link online with this information to my knowledge. I work for a handling company and we handle JM in GND, and a JM exec passed this information onto us. If this information hasn't been released yet, I assume it will be soon..
DYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5876 times:
Air Jamaica into Vancouver would be feasible. There is a market into Jamaica from Vancouver but I also think Jamaica wants to make it easier for Asians to travel to Jamaica and Vancouver works as a gateway. There was talk of Cuban into Vancouver few years back,but not sure what has happened with that.
WestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4061 times:
This is good news for JM. And with the Category 1 status at Jamaica, the national airline can easily expand. Now if only the situation could change with the caribbean island in the south so the green airline could do some North American expansions (you guys know what I mean...).
Caymanair From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2004, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4012 times:
I really wish Bwee could expand just the same. They are such a good airline, and they have tried so hard to succeed. But there is no Trinidadian or Bajan Butch Stewart to go bully any governments for bwee.
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5116 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3974 times:
I think JM has some good things going for it.
-They belong to a country that has a pretty healthy tourism industry.
-They fly to islands who are also known for tourism.
-They have a adventurous CEO, who owns a popular hotel chain, and the two work hand in hand.
-They have very strong marketing, and are building for themselves a reputation in North America and the Caribbean alike.
So despite the fact that they are said to be loosing more money that BWIA, they will continue to fly, though at Jamaican's taxpayers expense. They government of Jamaica would not let the airline disappear so easily because it contributes to carrying a significant amount of tourists to and from Jamaica each year. JM Is a private airline therefore, there accounts are not the most available thing. (this is just from my understanding.)
BW on the other hand, is the national airline of an island that is not very big on tourists. So the typical tourists destination/cities may not be for BW at this stage. Business routes may be extremely profitable. BW Does well on most of their routes. However they are not as popular to non West Indians as Air Jamaica, because they do not advertise as aggressively. Added to that, they are publicly traded so their accounts is for all to see, and is the topic of conversation for all. So their financial troubles are a bit overrated.
With POS in CAT2 status, it hinders BW from expanding to more North American cities.
They are however doing much better financially, and their current situation is looking quite remediable. CAT1 would give them the world, if they want it.
This is my understanding of the two airlines current status.
Bobs89irocz From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 632 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3929 times:
Actually Air Jam. sends the A321 to ORD. At least they did last winter when i was fueling out there. I moved about an hour and a half away so i dont know anymore since that flight came in so late anyways.
: This is great news! A friend of mine was just commenting the other day how it was odd that AC has a seasonal flight from YYC to Jamaica, but nothing o
: Bobs89...............it's always been A320 for me from ORD. I don't doubt you one minute. Was that a daily A321 or just in winter? Anyone one know whe
: "BW on the other hand, is the national airline of an island that is not very big on tourists." However, I have to believe that Trinidad certainly has
: I usually check Flytecomm for ORD everyday...........they've been showing A320's MBJ/ORD/MBJ as long as I can remember. Wish I could catch one of thos
: Kim777fan "As far as YVR to the Caribbean, I would think that if JM is even THINKING about that route that AC would quickly move and try to beat them
: "Air Canada and Transport Canada work hard to impede tourism and trade form airports other than YYZ and YUL " -What leads you to this hypothesis?
: When JM was under ban from flying to YYZ, AC operated their flight YYZ/KIN codeshared with JM. JM now has their privelidges restored, but this agreeme
: FLYYUL My hypothesis is based on - 90 % of all bilateral agreements favour Montreal and over 84% favour Toronto (cta-otc.gc.ca see agreements) -carrie
: Why can't JM do a Sat-Sun flight to RDU? a once daily.. I think that would work? Maybe????
: I have a couple questions: 1. Why ws JM banned from Canada? All these years I had the impression they chose to code share with AC on the YYZ route, no
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: I do not know if we will see BWIA expand this sort of way unless the airline is able to transform it self into the AirTran of the Caribbean. The gover
: Regarding the MD80s they were originally used on the JFK-BGI route. They were then deployed to Chicago, Nassau, Havana, Newark and Atlanta.
: I wonder if they ever will start MBJ-IAD service? They announced the service right before 9/11 and then axed it.
: That's great for JM, good luck to them with their expansion. I can't go without sayin' though, I still love my BWIA. "We Are The Caribbean"