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Air Force II within .5 mile of small aircraft  
User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130382,00.html

Couldn't find any blogs on this, thought it was interesting.
Anyone know what a/c came that close to his plane?



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User currently offlineAGrayson514 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 396 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

I found this: http://cnn.aimtoday.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-APO-1151&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040827%2F1454504899.htm&sc=1151

The article cites inadequate staffing at air traffic control centers, and that an supervisor was working the radar scopes, an as a supervisor only works 8 hours a month with aircraft, he was probably under experienced.

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User currently offlineDbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

"FAA spokeswoman Arlene Salac said that both planes were operating under visual flight rules...

Dean Iacopelli, president of the New York air traffic controller's union, blamed inadequate staffing for the problem, which he said happens about once a week in New York"

How could they blame ATC when both planes were under VFR?


User currently offlineMikeyUSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Simple, A2 was getting advisories, and the controller was too busy/distracted to give the pilot adequate warning.

Nothing wrong with that, as he isn't required to issue an advisory for a VFR aircraft, but with more controllers staffing more sectors, he could possibly have given an advisory sooner.

Mike


[Edited 2004-08-28 02:26:50]

User currently offlineDbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

Yeah, but VFR traffic doesn't necessarily monitor center frequency. So, even if he would have noticed the planes were getting close, there still would be no guarantee that anyone would hear it.

User currently offlineMikeyUSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

Yes, but in this case we are TOLD that A2 was talking to the center and receiving advisories.

Mike


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