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KLM 747-400 IAH To Schipol  
User currently offlineJustloveplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1063 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6627 times:

Just did a transatlantic roundtrip on KLM Houston to Geneva via Amsterdam on KLM and found the 744 they use quite interesting. I would appreciate any comments on the following:

1) Apparently, it is a Combi passenger/freighter on some or all days from IAH to Schipol.

2) The craft appears to have a mid-cabin "navigation or communication" desk behind a curtain. I saw a flight attendant or somebody with a mic in there. It has a chair desk and a wall full of comm gear of some kind.

3) In ADDITION, just behind business class, they have LONGITUDINALLY split the cabin. On one half there is 3-2 economy section with the 2 interior to the 3 on the window side. The other side appears to be the galley for the whole plane. The inside seat by the wall is actually quite comfy for the non-claustrophobic, you wind up with additional elbow room, I could place my laptop on the floor between the wall and my seal.

All in all, a very innovative setup from both a marketing and passenger standpoint. Service was very nice too, hot towels, snacks, beverage of choice. Hats off to KLM, they gave me a very interesting ride and ran a first class operation all the way.

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User currently offlineWhiskeyhotel From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6562 times:

I used to watch that plane make its final right over my driveway every day when I lived in Houston...never realised it was such an odd bird. Hope someone has some info on it. Having read that, am now considering using it to go between EDI and IAH at some point...sure CO is more convenient, but this, I've got to see

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6553 times:

The craft appears to have a mid-cabin "navigation or communication" desk behind a curtain

The aircraft doubles as the NATO AWACS backup on certain routes, hence the need for the sophisticated communications gear.



User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6561 times:

just behind business class, they have LONGITUDINALLY split the cabin. On one half there is 3-2 economy section with the 2 interior to the 3 on the window side


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User currently offlineSpeedbird2025 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6533 times:

We actually felt cramped when we flew to AMS about 2 years back. Sitting economy class we felt like a can of sardines (perhaps because the back 1/4 is cargo area and the config is a bit different than the usual 744. However the service was great on KL 661/662. My wifey still remembers those hot towels  Smile Oh and the daily KL 661/662 to AMS is a combi 744...

--Nate


User currently offlineVunz From Netherlands, joined Jun 2001, 360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6385 times:

In addition to that ther is a twice weekly 767 flight on fridays ans sundays (KL663/664)

User currently offlineKEESJE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6347 times:

Justloveplanes, the communication center you saw is what we call the purser work station.

It's a kind of office from which the purser can control the IFE, cabin temperature, crew, do ad hoc work and administration and do PA (Pass. Attention) calls.

However most of the time the purser is in the cabin motivating/ supporting crew, talking to passengers etc.

The area you sat in (B-zone) is a flex zone. If demand requires we can put in 10 or 18 WBC seats. In difficult market situations like the last few years it is allocated for M-class.

Nice tro hear you appreciated the service,

Thnx for flying us!

(BTW there is a trip reports section for this kind is topics)


User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6341 times:

-Justloveplanes
1) Apparently, it is a Combi passenger/freighter on some or all days from IAH to Schipol.


That is correct

2) The craft appears to have a mid-cabin "navigation or communication" desk behind a curtain. I saw a flight attendant or somebody with a mic in there. It has a chair desk and a wall full of comm gear of some kind.

That is where the Purser (Cabin Manager) does her work, such as making announcements, starting the in-flight movies, control the cabin temperature etc.

3) In ADDITION, just behind business class, they have LONGITUDINALLY split the cabin. On one half there is 3-2 economy section with the 2 interior to the 3 on the window side. The other side appears to be the galley for the whole plane. The inside seat by the wall is actually quite comfy for the non-claustrophobic, you wind up with additional elbow room, I could place my laptop on the floor between the wall and my seal.

They had the same configuration on the now retired 747-200SUD/300's

Dank je for flying KLM and I am glad you had a good time with.

GlobeTrekker




edited for spelling

[Edited 2004-08-31 09:54:04]


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User currently offlineAirbus340 From Spain, joined Dec 2000, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6317 times:

Some years ago I had a KLM 747-400 poster and by the middle of the plane there was an area of covered windows, painted following the blue livery. I always wandered what was behind those windows? I finally guessed there were the resting area of the cabin crew, but I see now that I was wrong. Thanks for that information!

Cheers!

airbus340


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