Sdkualeb From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 129 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4190 times:
The last few days EWR has almost come to a complete stop with delays for over 2-3 hrs both inbound and out bound. Is there something more then WX ? Is it something with the RNC in NYC ? Its all flts and all airlines. Can someone shed a little light. Also is it just EWR or is JFK,LGA having the some problem?
A340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4117 times:
Weather impacting routes in/out of the NY area was the main cause of delays, specifically today. When weather builds up between NY and Cleveland centers, it makes for troublesome times as departure routes get cut off as flights aren't able to deviate due to the amount of traffic operating in the northeast.
"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
AMS From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1692 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4016 times:
I just flew yesterday from EWR to AMS, and yes there were many delays due to thunderstorms in the Area. Also I believe that there are Thunderstorms coming up in the next days. Off course commuter aircraft are more sensitive to this.
Coa764 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 328 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3876 times:
The delay was caused to weather and the RNC.
The delays in EWR the last few days have been weather driven and have had nothing to do with the RNC.
Yesterday was a combination TS Gaston and the weather ahead of the approaching frontal system. Delays started when the loss of routes south through Washington Centers airspace. EWR/LGA/JFK have three different arrival flows into the NY area and the EWR/LGA streams were combined due to weather. That same weather also blocked departures via J75. As the morning progressed the weather developing along the front started to shut off the west departure routes out of the NY area due to the route closures and eastbound traffic deviating into the departure routes. In an attempt to limit the number of arrivals and limit the volume of traffic Ground Delay Programs were put into place for EWR/JFK/LGA/PHL/IAD. Since the issue was an en route and not terminal one it didn't work. Departure delays out of EWR started to increase past 120 minutes. So Ground stops were used to do just that, stop the traffic into the NY metros and give them a chance to flush the departures. Only problem is that when you stop everything the demand per hour increases behind the stop and so when the Ground Delay Program is revised the average delay goes up and the program end time is extended out. Basically it make a real mess of things and once the delays like this are put into the system recovery is very limited to none until the initiatives expire
Please oh please Mr Moderator Nazi, dont delete my thread.