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United Upgrades PEK Service  
User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3141 times:



Starting October 30 SFO PEK service on UA gets upgraded from a 777 to a 747. The aircraft is in flight from 30 to the 31st of October then overnights before returning! There for the return flight doesn't start with the -400 till November 1. Great news for UA and China!

-m

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[Edited 2004-08-31 14:54:12]

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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4852 posts, RR: 44
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3049 times:

Does this flight originate in SFO, LAX or ORD?

User currently offlineHz747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1711 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3038 times:
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It's not an upgrade for coach passengers as there is no PTV IFE. That means I have to read a book, or AirlinerWorld.


Keep on truckin'...
User currently offlineCol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2129 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

Unfortunately I can see more services going back to 744 on Asian routes, and no IFE in Economy. The only good thing is that you don't have the 5 across in economy of the 777.

User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

It does have it's pro's and con's, but for UAL these flights are packed every day. I am trying to go on the 1st or 2nd of October and it doesn't look good for a non-rev.


UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5309 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2913 times:

'''Does this flight originate in SFO, LAX or ORD?'''

It said SFO - PEK in the original post.........  Laugh out loud

KL911


User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2897 times:

It will originate in SFO.
ORD will stay a 777 for now.

UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2895 times:

I'm surprised it wasn't already 744, or for that matter, quad-744. I know for a fact they could fill them... (and in the future, will).

User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2892 times:

PVG Service will go from a 747 to a 777 soon as well.

UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 693 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2877 times:

It's not an upgrade for coach passengers as there is no PTV IFE. That means I have to read a book, or AirlinerWorld.

or hemisphere's magazine  Smile


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4852 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2823 times:

it makes sense to put a 744 from nov onwards because in winter traffic demand between the two cities is huge and especially during the chinese new year...ual would want to uplift as many pax as it can and mint $$$ whilst doing it...so business wise this move is well thought of and very sensible.

only problem is that like someone pointed out the IFE of the UALs B 744s are inferior to its B 777 fleet.


User currently offlineBa319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8596 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2751 times:
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Whilst it may be an upgrade in pax capacity,it is not an upgrade for 'Y' class passengers,thats for sure!


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User currently offlineB2443 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

and its 777 has 18" seat width in Y, whilst its 747 has 17"...hardly "upgrade" at all.

User currently offlineSean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2619 times:

Don't forget also, the lease rates on the 744 are cheaper than the 777, pay rates are the same... so as long as the passengers are there to pay for the extra fuel burn, UA will continue to shift to 744's.

User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2605 times:

Sean-SAN-

Just a minor correction...the -400 fleet is owned so as long as the pilots are being paid the same now the extra cost of the fuel burn is more then made up when you look at the lease rates of the 777. The last 4 whales come out of the desert this winter and will be in service soon!

-m

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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9216 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2584 times:

Wow seems that an increasing number of B 747s are flying for UA. Traffic picking up dramatically? Or simply because of leasing arrangements?

the 5 across in economy of the 777

Well that means only 1 person on each role has to climb over 2 passengers


User currently offlineIL76TD From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

yea, not so much of an upgrade, more capacity, but definitely not an upgrade

User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 6 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

I'm surprised it wasn't already 744, or for that matter, quad-744. I know for a fact they could fill them... (and in the future, will).

They did in the past. Before 9/11 SFO-PEK was a B744 but UA then discontinued the route. It was good to see UA re-enter this market again and good to see that the load factors are very high.

I flew SFO-PEK back in 2000 on a B744. Its manageable without PTVs.

pilottim747



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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2980 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

There was no non-stop SFO-PEK service back in 2000.
Probably connected through NRT. The SFO-PEK service just started this summer.

Always good to hear good news from UA or any carrier.


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