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21 Years Since KAL007 Today  
User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5925 posts, RR: 18
Posted (11 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

I just want to take the opportunity to remind fellow a.netters about today's 21st anniversary of the KAL007 disaster. One of the most tragic and to a large extent very mysterious events in civil aviation history. RIP all those innocent souls, who perished over the Pacific that day.

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User currently offlineVS4ever From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 568 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

Totally agree with that, it was a sad day for the whole of civil aviation when that aircraft went down.

RIP all who were lost.


Bring Back Orion Airways, you were the best!
User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5925 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

Did anyone read the book "Incident at Sakhalin. The True Mission of KAL Flight 007" by Michel Brun (published by Four Wall Eight Windows, 1995)? I personally find the conslusions of the book very hard to believe, yet very well argumented. Is there any other book about this case which you'd recommend?

User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 67
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

I remember that day... wow, has it really been 21 years??? I was 11 back then, but I remember that slight doomsday feeling that a lot of people had back then....

L410Turbolet, since I haven't read that book - what hard to believe conclusions does it draw? Is it an interesting read?


Smile - it confuses people!
User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5925 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2173 times:

he claims that
- the captain of KAL007 intentionally declared its position completely different than it actually was in respect to the Romeo 20 air corridor.
- it wasn't the Russians who shot down the 747 since he found its debris on Japan's Hokkaido island, where they coun't possibly get from the pressumed location of KAL007's dissapearance due to existing strams.
-there are also pictures of debris found during first days of rescue operations, debris which he claims was identified as flap from EF-111 and part of ejection seat as well as chunk of titanium wing which was salvaged from the ocean in 1990.
- using radar reads he claims that there was huge operation over the Sakhalin, where the objective was to gain intelligence about Russian air defense in that area and that this operation invoved as many as 10 military aircraft and was coordinated with two spy satellites Ferret and maybe even space shuttle Challenger flight STS-8 participated on this operation.
- and many other things

It's really hard to summarize the whole book in two paragraphs.

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

It is hard to believe it's been 21 years.


User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 3040 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2006 times:


I have that book too. It makes fascinating reading, and as you say, it is very well argumented - although he could have used more illustrations and diagrams to make his point and to show the coherence of his story (for example, where did he find all those KAL007 fragments?).

The one week point of his hypothesis is that his coverage of the "real" (according to his reconstruction) crash is a bit poor: he says, if I recall, that "KAL007 was shot doen by non-Russian forces for reasons and under circumstances still to be clarified". It would have added a lot of credibility to his book if he had investigated that part deeper. Nonetheless, some of the evidence is compelling. Especially the fragments there were shown to the public as the wreckage of KAL007, but that in fact included an ejection seat. I will dig into it again.

I am not saying he is right or wrong, and I know this can be a very polemic issue - on this website it probably will. But whatever the cause and real scenario, it remains one of the most tragic and serious incidents of the Cold War.

I scratch my head, therefore I am.
User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5925 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

I wonder if there's someone who knows the whole story. Especially what was KAL007's captain, who used to be president Chun Doo-hwan's personal pilot, thinking and why he deliberately put so many lives in danger by violating the Soviet airspace in such sensitive area. Especially since there was a precedent with Boeing 707, flight KAL902, which was forced by Russian fighter jets to land on a frozen lake near Murmansk on April 20, 1978 (from aviation point of view it seems to me quite risky operation to land on frozen lake with a heavy airliner in late April). He had to know the chances that repeating the same thing will go unnoticed or tolerated were nil.

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