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User currently offlineNoelG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

Hi there

Does anyone know if you can get the Syrian 747SP just from LHR-MAN and back, or do you have to be on the long haul?

Also is it very expensive to do? Might be a cool day out at some point  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Cheers,
Noel.

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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

I thought the RB flights operated via Paris Orly?


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

It does show in the system as a valid flight leg, but there are no fares loaded for the route, Maybe someone clued up on fifth freedom rights can help?

26SEP SUN LHR/Z‡1 MAN/‡0
1RB 410 C4 Y4 LHRMAN 1000 1100 747

Mark



Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1765 times:

It shows up as available LHR MAN because RB have not provided the correct traffic restriction information in their schedules messages to prevent GDS users from booking it. Since no fares are filed, it would indicate they are not permitted to transport pax on this route.

User currently offlineNoelG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1747 times:

RB's website shows it in the schedule, but I don't know whether it's an error or not - you can't book online with them  Sad

http://www.syrian-airlines.com/saa/Result.asp?from=57&to=87&from_month=10&from_day=16&from_year=2004&oneWay=t


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1743 times:

Noel - if you look carefully, if you put in London - Manchester into the RB website, it actually gives you London-Manchester-Damascus travel solutions. Methinks 'tis a pile of pants.

User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

LHR-MAN would be 6th freedom, or cabotage, and there is no way the UK government would ever allow that from a non-EU carrier


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User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

on amadeus it shows sunday flight LHR-MAN and weds man-lhr


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

Soups - I think on Wednesdays it routes Damascus - Manchester - Heathrow -Damascus. I assume on Sundays it does Damascus - Heathrow - Manchester - Damascus.

User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1604 times:

And the monday flight?


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1569 times:

I think on Mondays it does Damascus - Manchester - Heathrow - Damascus as well.

User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1563 times:

wouldnt be happy if i was flying to LHR and had to stop in MAN a bit out of the way


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1537 times:

"wouldnt be happy if i was flying to LHR and had to stop in MAN a bit out of the way"

And the MAN people should be happy having to stop at LHR?



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

Syrian UK scheduled is i think something like this NOTE they night stop at Heathrow twice a week so its not actually a daily service even out of London and no Friday flight !

Damascus-Allepo- LHR Saturday
RB409 (Night stop)

LHR -MAN-Damascus Sunday RB410

Damascus-MAN-LHR
Monday RB411 (night stop)

LHR -MAN-Damascus
Tuesday RB412

Damascus-MAN-LHR
Wednesday RB413 (Night stop)

LHR-Aleppo -Damascus
Thursday RB414

The Alleppo stops don't always happen and the Wednesday/Thursday rotation is the most irratic

No flight Friday

Soups you might like to know is actually nearer to the Middle East from Manchester !
Routeing out over Hull across the Netherlands and Germany and central Europe.
Oh and what do you mean Manchester being out of the way.
These flights have mostly been one stop through history.
Until recently they routed via Munich or Paris.
Both of these now have their own services using the A320.


User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

Well Soups, if I hadn't looked at your profile I would have sworn you were one of those soft Southern jessies! Heaven forbid a passenger heading for LHR should have to stop off in the North first!

User currently offlineNEXtime From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

I can assure you the flight is NOT available from LHR-MAN or v.v. However, if you want to be adventurous check out the fares available at http://www.syrianairlines.co.uk and go to Damascus! You have the option to travel from LHR or MAN at quite reasonable fares. I did just that, traveling out from MAN on 29/8 and returning on 1/9. If you travel from LHR you can take a direct flight or go via MAN to get in the extra sector to appreciate the performance of the SP! Hotels in Damascus aren't cheap but there are some deals to be found. Once you are there its very cheap, also the people there are very friendly. Its a bustling city bursting with historical interest. Not really geared up for tourism but I would have no hesitation in recommending it to anyone! Only drawback is that the airport is quiet and there are rules about photography there which should be adhered to, although theres nothing stopping you taking photos from on board the aircraft. I also managed to sneak a couple of extras off from the cafe during a 2 hour delay on the return flight. During the coming days I will be making efforts to upload a select few! There are a number of SyrianAir & Syrian Gov't machines stored & parked up remote from the terminal (IL76 / TU154 / TU134 / YK40 / AN26) most of which can be seen from the approach road to the airport and from the upper levels of the terminal, although positively identifying registrations is not easy. Hope you get this post before your trip to MIA and hope its of assistance. I also hope that "Francis" does not disrupt your plans...


Fantastic 4-Holers : Concorde, Boeing 747SP & Lockheed Jetstar - I'm lovin' it!
User currently offlineNoelG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

NEXTime et al,

Thanks for your responses, certainly something to think of as an "unusual" travel destination - would certainly be an interesting trip!

Well our flight tomorrow is cancelled for definate, rebooked on AA LHR-MIA on Sunday but the whole thing could be cancelled, we just don't know for now! V tired after working 0700-2200 yesterday and looking like the same today!
 Yawn

Then we've got the added problem of getting 1400 delegates from the UK to MIA before Monday - many of whom are scheduled to go before tomorrow....busy weekend ahead!

Cheers,
Noel.


User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1325 times:

NEXtime - sounds like an interesting trip. Will you be posting a trip report? Also, how did you find getting into Syria? Was it straightforward or did you get lots of questions from immigration?

User currently offlineNEXtime From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

A visa is essential, takes about 10 days from the Syrian Embassy. I had no problem at immigration on arrival (15 mins or so in the queue), baggage claim quick & efficient and taxi into City Centre (28km) was equivalent to £6 E/W.
Currency exchange in the arrivals area. I was in the hotel downtown within 75mins of touchdown at Damascus A/P.
On return its a little more chaotic, the work queue does not seem to be realized in the Syrian dictionary, its every man for himself at the baggage screening (All bags are screened before check-in) and then its a similar story at the check-in desks! After check-in the passport control is efficient and theres a good duty free area if you wish. There is a requirement to buy departure tax (Approx £12) before you go through passport control. I did not know about this, so once I had checked in had to be escorted back through the system to do so. I had the ordeal of screening again (hand baggage only this time, but still the same battle to get through). Otherwise I experienced no problems during my short stay and enjoyed the experience. Its like a lot of places in this world, if you are sensible, you will be safe.
Re the trip report, its something I will consider later due to current commitments...



Fantastic 4-Holers : Concorde, Boeing 747SP & Lockheed Jetstar - I'm lovin' it!
User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1246 times:

You would also need a visa which when I went in 2001 cost about £30. This cannot be obtained on arrival. Suddenly it's not such a cheap flight Smile/happy/getting dizzy

edit

Nextime just beat me to the visa info

[Edited 2004-09-03 15:19:27]

User currently offlineME Avn Fan From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1212 times:

Suggest, you TAKE the long-haul. Damascus is a very beautiful place to visit !

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