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User currently offlineBA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 8
Posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4538 times:

New economy class idea from Thomson Solutions (on airlinequality.com)

see the above for a staggered seating concept for economy seats that would improve privacy and add space... clever!

I really like the idea of this – I had thought of a similar idea myself. I guess you might lose a little space at the end of each cabin, but other than that it seems a good innovation. Why has no airline ever introduced something like this? It would surely give you more elbow space, which would be a boon on long-haul flights!

cabin crew: doors to automatic and cross-check...
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User currently offlineKBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

poor layout for quick evacuations

The tower? Rapunzel!!!!!!
User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4453 times:

Yes, I saw that. They make no mention whatsoever of the scenario of the window seat occupant getting past the aisle seat occupant - especially if the aisle seat in front is reclined. It is bad enough with even 34" of seat pitch - now you'd have to negotiate a much narrower gap between the longitudinal pairs of seats.

If indeed it was a good idea, then airlines would have implemented it.

Pie in the sky as far as I'm concerned.

Geoff M.

User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4442 times:

Never mind evacuations - how does the guy at the window actually get out to go to the loo ? I don't know if this will work - your legs have to go somewhere, and with this layout, it seems the armrest of the next seat along will be digging into your thigh. Can't see it happening, meself.

User currently offlineBA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4414 times:

That's fair - hadn't thought of that....

cabin crew: doors to automatic and cross-check...
User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4355 times:

This has been discussed a few times.

While it is an interesting concept, it would simply not work for the reasons stated and many more. The closest thing to this idea is how a few airlines (BA and VS come to mind) stagger First Class and Business Class seats, which works because there is a lot of room to begin with.


"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4090 times:

The idea is to allow aisle pax better egress by creating a mini aisle along the windows. (moving the row away from the window.)

User currently offlineGoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

Imagine a person sitting in one of the seats. The aisle seat, for the sake of argument. Their legs block the passage from the middle and window seat to the aisle, beacuse the middle seat in front is set back. Made worse if someone reclines - dangerous in evacuations.

What I feel a realistic solution will soon be is to add a third aisle and widen aircraft... 2-3-3-2 anyone?

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17380 posts, RR: 66
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4039 times:

A wider aircraft gives other problems, mainly in the form of additional drag. The sweet spot of length/width ratio is pretty big, but not that big..

"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineJetMARC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 574 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

I think everyone is looking at the sketches incorrectly. Judging from the coloured drawings, it looks to me everyone would be facing the aisle, on a 45 degree angle towards the aisle, so you would basically stand up and walk forward. Almost like the new BA first class suites. You shouldnt have to worry about reclined seats in an evcuation as all seat backs would be upright for take off / landing, emergency or not. Gimmie a break, do you think the current setup doesnt hinder your ability to evacuate??

As for the other 'views', they show the seats staggered but not angled toward the aisle. Properly angled, each passenger would have clear access to the aisle. Also, the images only show one seat bank and an aisle, with the aisle being at the top of the image - of course nobody is going to be blocked in. They're trying to create a more comfortable seat and allow passengers to move in and out without bother other seat mates - blocking in the window passenger would defeat what theyre trying to accomplish. So again if you angle each seat towards the aisle (towards the top of the drawing, it makes sense and I think its an very good idea and would be very popular and comfortable...

"Sucka, I'm gonna send you out on Knuckle Airlines. Fist Class!!" ~ Mr. T
User currently offlineOxygen From Hong Kong, joined Sep 1999, 675 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3787 times:

Hi JetMARC, I don't think the layout is intended to be angled towards the aisle- if you click into the thompson website, there are some plan views of a whole economy section, and all the seats faces foward. I also saw some pamphlets given to airlines for evaluation, and it also shows all seats facing forward.

User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5607 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3717 times:


HTML! The only way to fly to your link!

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Interesting; However, several of the front rows should be left alone for the exponential increase of wheelchair and other physically challenged passengers that fly our friendly sky's. And don't forget passengers requiring asile chairs.

[Edited 2004-09-04 06:47:46]

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