BH346 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3265 posts, RR: 15 Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3579 times:
JALways does low-yield tourist markets like Guam, Hawaii, Australia, etc from Japan. They have older planes from JAL like the 747 classics and the DC-10. Their aircraft are usually configured in a high-density configuration and the service is a step below regular JAL service (from what I hear).
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Carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2883 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3533 times:
As BH346 mentioned, Jalways flies the low-yield, Japan-to-vacationing destinations. Jalways flies older equipment (interesting to see what replaces the DC-10s as they are to be retired next fiscal year).
Service is tailored to the vacationer, so I wouldn't call it a step below.
Also Jalways is manned primarily by foreigners. It usually has American or Aussie pilots and Thai cabin crew but the chief of the cabin staff is Japanese. Pay for Japanese is high so having it manned by foreigners makes the labor operating costs lower thereby making these vacationing routes better for the balance-book according to JAL group.
AA2MM From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 110 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3469 times:
I have flown Jalways 6 or 7 times between NRT-BKK...YES , all the cockpit crews were lilly white and cabin crews were mostly Thai , with a few Japanese
FAs mixed in..
Seats were old and tight ...no PTVs with AVOD , like on JAL , they call it Magic
Something...meal services , to me , in Y and C , were just as good as JAL...
In Y : always hot towels , drinks with nuts and rice crackers..your typical tray meals , with wines offered ( individual fifths offered )...and upon arrival in BKK...ice cream bars...From BKK , I always take the overnite flight : hot towel..drinks with nuts and rice crackers , and upon arrival in NRT..hot congee
breakfast with condiments , soba , fruits and roll...
I have flown my shares of FC , C and Y on different airlines...I am very impressed with Jalways inflight services...They made rounds and rounds offering hot green tea , hot black tea , coffee and water after serving the meals in Y....For me , by the time I get to NRT , I was already dead tired..
a quick eat and I'd doze off ...Comparing to a TG 8AM flight I took from BKK
to NRT..boy , they were way ahead , no comparisons at all...TG was so bad , and the flight was completely empty : the "senior " Thai FAs basically did not give a hoot about pax..no smile , no extra personal efforts made at all..it was all so visible and felt !!!
I don't know who would staff the cabin crews for flights from NRT to Guam, HNL or any other destinations you would call "touristy"....
Ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3550 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3444 times:
JALways only has scheduled flights with JO flight numbers to Honolulu, Guam, and Saipan. They have a pilot base in HNL, with foreign pilots, most from the US/Canada. FAs are from Thailand, and I believe are based in Thailand, hence some JL flights to BKK operated by JO. The service is usually 1-class service using a 2-class configured aircraft.
The DC-10 will most likely be replaced by 767s and/or 777s. 767s will start to fly extra sections to HNL in October. 777s start in December. The last DC-10 flight to HNL is scheduled for December. JO58/57 is a DC-10, so something will have to replace it.
Ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3550 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3256 times:
Actually, there are only JL flights between NRT and HNL. However, only 1 NRT-HNL flight is crewed by JAL pilots and FAs, JL72/71. This is also the only JAL 3-class service and scheduled JAL 747-400. The rest are operated by JO crews and are 2-class flight or sometimes 1-class service.
You can easily find out who is operating a JAL flight by checking their schedule. It will say under the flight segment who is operating the flight.
Ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3550 posts, RR: 6 Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3207 times:
Amadeus has the carrier code wrong. Flights 76, 74, and 727 are JAL flights and should have the JL carrier code not JO. It should instead have a notation that the flight is operated by JO.
The only true JO flights are:
JO58/57 FUK-HNL (operated by JAL Intl)
JO947/948 NRT-SPN (operated by JAL Intl)
JO949/940 KIX-SPN (operated by JAL Intl)
JO941/942 NRT-GUM (operated by JAL Intl)
JO981/982 NRT-GUM (operated by JAL Intl)
JO945/946 NGO-GUM (operated by JAL Intl)
As you can see, only 2 JALways flights are actually flown using JALways crews. The crew pay issue is not why JALways was brought about. If it was, more JALways flights would use JALways crews. JALways is more about the level of service and type of service provided. It is usually 1-class service (occasionally 2-class) with a more vacation/holiday environment. FAs use various pastel color uniforms (never saw a whole FA crew with the same color) and inflight service materials follow the same vacation/holiday theme. They play Bingo, the FAs take pictures of pax, etc.
JALways started off as a charter division in JAL as Japan Air Charter (JAZ). The first JAZ flight was FUK-HNL in July 1991. In 1999, Japan Air Charter was spun off so that it could provide scheduled flight service and was renamed into JALways.
Hnl-Jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 815 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3152 times:
I've flown both JALWays and JAL between HNL and NRT many times. Service on both is excellent. The major difference is the type of aircraft and seating. All the JAL flights I've flown are three class 744's with suites in F/C, the most comfortable Business Class seating I've ever experienced and coach seats that have PTV's. However, the best deal going is JALWays on the 742. The airplane is sold as all coach, but is a two class configuration. If your travel agent is smart, they can get you up front in seats that are comparable to U.S. domestic First Class. Have done that for as reasonable as $375 round trip.
Grew up in the business and continued the family tradition.
Cessna172RG From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 746 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3146 times:
Jalways Reso'cha pilots are hired by IASCO, for those who didn't know, which is a big source of non-Japanese pilots.
As for Jalways flights, they offer certain perks in flight, such as special kids meals, toys, and stuff. I have some students of mine who went there in August and they came back with all kinds of stuff that they got on the plane.
So, from what I have heard, Jalways offers a bit more of a service perk than standard JAL flights.