AirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3650 times:
I know in DEN that during the busy holiday season that a lot of Firefighters hire on as Part Time employees I've had a lot of friends go and do that for the holiday cash (just an interesting fact that I thought I would share)
Freshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3627 times:
Yeah the cold job, tell me about it. I was the "lucky one" who got chosen to go to the class to learn about all the different express and mainline planes and where to spray and where not to, then ontop of that I get to come back to the station and have everyone watch one of these cheesy videos on spraying all the different types of planes and then give them a test to see if they understand. It is really common sense (which I see that some of my employees don't have) and could be taught to someone in a few hours. I see no reason why it took 2 days for initial, but yet takes 4 hours for recurrent and it is the same stuff. They could teach you all the stuff in 4 hours easily even in initial. Then there is the part about the different fluids..Type 1 or Type IV. There is always one captain who screws the whole thing up by asking for Type IV when we are spraying Type 1. But as we are taught if he wants it he gets it. It's really kind of fun to spray one of them down. If you ever get the opportunity just hope you are in a covered bucket or you will smell like glycol for days!!!......Oh yeah just an F.Y.I did you know that propylene glycol (de-ice fluid) is a preservative in twinkees and other foods like that?
Jetmek319 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 199 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3582 times:
know in DEN that during the busy holiday season that a lot of Firefighters hire on as Part Time employees I've had a lot of friends go and do that for the holiday cash (just an interesting fact that I thought I would share)
And some airlines will even give the Fire Fighters/EMS/Police a couple of standby passes!
AA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 505 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3496 times:
At Schiphol Amsterdam, KLM has its own staff to cover this. There's actually also a number of guys who work in offices (Technical Dept.) but have that de-icing "skill" so in peak winter times, they know where to knock on the door.
EZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3427 times:
British Airways got their own fleet of De-Icer trucks, they all a one man operation too! Nice warm cab and great fun to drive around at 80ft, they also got new ones that reach out far enough to de-ice the new A380!
RDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1516 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3370 times:
At RDU all carriers or whomever they sub their ramp out to do their own de-icing. Most carriers do have their own trucks. It fact last year I got stuck up in the air due to hydraulic failure in a de-ice bucket while de-icing the tail of a BAe-146 at 9pm at night in a snow storm. Not fun. I had to midair jump into another de-ice bucket from a DL truck to get down! I think you'll find most airlines do their own deicing at airports were snowfall is minimal. I heard a rumor once that some airport in the midwest (maybe MSP) has a de-ice hanger, that works sort of like a carwash and recycles the used glycol.
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Qm001 From Portugal, joined Mar 2004, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3360 times:
I think that some clarification will be needed on the question! Do you want you know who does the de-icing at the airports? Who is responsible for it? Who manufactures the fluids? Or do you want to know who performs the physical act? they each have very different answers!
Mariner. Let me know which you want to know the answers for.
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Jetblue15 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3330 times:
As far as Jetblue goes, the only cities where we do our own de-icing is JFK and BUF. Maybe BOS as well. Other cities such as SLC use a contracted company. Off hand I dont know the company but can find out.
Yhz78 From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3189 times:
Mariner, in airports where the airline has ground staff they usually provide the de-icing equipment and staff. In smaller outstations where the work is contracted to vendor companies they usually provide de-icing as part of the contract. In some cases (YYZ does it) the airport authority will be responsible for it and contract one company to provide this service for all airlines regardless who does the ground handling.
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Av8trxx From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 657 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3021 times:
"Oh yeah just an F.Y.I did you know that propylene glycol (de-ice fluid) is a preservative in twinkees and other foods like that?"
True. Some might be surprised to know how many products they use everyday that have it. "It's stabilizer (in prepared fruits, vegetables and bakery goods) and a solvent in flavor solutions and extractions (in food additives, such as colors, antioxidants, enzymes and emulsifiers)...Propylene glycols are commonly used in many types of cosmetic formulations like-
Skin care (creams, moisturizers, cleansers, lotions, sun care products)
Deodorants and antiperspirants (roll on, stick and gel deodorants)
Hair care (shampoos, conditioners, styling gels, and coloring products)
Shaving products (creams, foams, gels, and after-shave lotions)
Bath and shower products
Perfumes and colognes
Baby care products (baby wipes)
Hand cleansing and disinfecting gels
Color cosmetics (blushes, eyeliner, lipsticks, eye shadow)
Dental care (mouth washes and toothpastes)