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Uh-oh! Windward Islands In Great Danger  
User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2661 times:

Guys,

I was just following the track on Hurricane Ivan. The good news is it's moving so fast that it lost some strength (now down to a Category 3 with sustained winds of 125mph). However the bad news is the Windward Islands from Martinique to Grenada is inder a Hurricane Warning. What's even more amazing is that Trinidad & Tobago is under a Tropical Storm Warning. I don't remember when last I've heard the islands that far south being threatened.

This is indeed very bad news. The damages are projected to be extensive, as they (National Weather Service and The Weather Channel) predict the storm will restrengthen to a Category 4 and possibly a Category 5 before passing over the islands. In keeping withing the context of aviation, the major local carriers like BWIA, LIAT, Caribbean Star, and Air Jamaica will take a big hit, especially BWIA.

This has been an incredible year in the tropics; and historically, the peak season isn't until mid-September. I have lots of freinds and family living from Martinique to Trinidad (and the islands in between, especially St. Lucia), and if Florida could get beat up like that, imagine what will happen to the islands.

The Caribbean will take a hit as early as tomorrow.

Neil


God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
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User currently offlineGoAibusGo From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 275 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2640 times:

Yes, here in Bonaire, Curacao and Aruba we are also watching it closely. We are also far south in the Caribbean, but you never know.....
We will see what DCA and BonairExel will do when this thing is closer.

Good luck to you for tomorrow !


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 789 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2589 times:

The Leeward Islands are watching this storm closely as well. It is reported that any nothern turn of this storm could bring it dangerously close to the Leeward Islands. These Islands are Anguilla, St. Kitts/Nevis, Antigua/Barbuda, Montserrat and Dominica.


You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2517 times:

To all my A.netter friends in Trinidad and Grenada, I've just saw the updated advisories, and T&T now has a hurricane warning! How are you guys doing down there? Is BWIA going to move their planes? How is Piarco? What about Crown Point? Point Salines?

Neil



God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4306 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2510 times:

I don't remember a hurricane ever hitting Trinidad & Tobago and St. Vincent and Barbados! Does anyone??

The storms usually turn north to the Virgin Islands before it hits those countries...



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User currently offlineBucky707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2506 times:

I was in Barbados back in Jan. Great place, very nice people. I hope they ride it out without much damage.

User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2499 times:

Is BWIA going to move their planes? How is Piarco? What about Crown Point? Point Salines?

They can always bring them to mainland, we'll be happy to store BWIAs birds here in Venezuela for a couple of days  Smile


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 789 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2472 times:

I don't remember a hurricane ever hitting Trinidad & Tobago and St. Vincent and Barbados! Does anyone??

Well, I was told that the last time Barbados had a hurricane was 1955!!! Due to the geographic location of Trinidad, it is highly unlikely that they would get a direct hit by any hurricane.



You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2467 times:

Trinidad will get a "glancing blow", but the eye will pass just north of Tobago, and just south of Grenada. That's just too close for comfort. This thing is so big that St. Lucia and Martinique still has a Tropical Storm warning!

Any word on BWIA?

Neil



God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
User currently offlineJFKTOWERFAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1100 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2443 times:
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User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

Ivan is already over Trinidad and Grenada. In Venezuela is over Sucre State and Margarita Island.




User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

We had a bit of high wind earlier in the morning with some rains. So parts of the island, (low lying, coastal areas and mountains ) reports downed trees, due to higher winds. We are experiencing the break in weather as you can see from the satellite picture there. BUt coditions are expected to worsen as the storm passes over. Our airport has been closed since 9:30 last night.

American Eagle, usually overnights their aircraft, but last night it returned to SJU.

BA 2156/2157, Grenada segments are cancelled today. This flight is shared with ANU, whose segments are supposed to be operating.

JM 092 and JM097 are cancelled today. These flights are both shared with BGI so they are cancelled totally.

All regional flights cancelled until airport reopens, BW 8B and LI, that is what happening in this part of the world, now this is what is happening in your neck of the woods... (did i get that right?)



There is something special about planes....
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

Captaink,

Have any of Avior's B1900Ds got stuck there in Point Salines?

[Edited 2004-09-07 19:08:04]

User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2308 times:

Nope Luisde8cd Avior's B1900's are well out of GND. It is a good thing they have the super fast 10-15 minute turnaround times...LOL.

We have one Venezuelan airline that overnights in Grenada Saturday night to pick up Excel Airways crew and fly them to Magarita. The airline is in English named Wings... Do you know of it? But that is out as well.

In fact when I left work last night, we did not have any aircraft on the ground, or any that was planning to stay. I left at 9PM, and one LIAT flight was scheduled to land at about 9:15 and then head up to Antigua. The airport then closed at 9:30, with nil planes on the ground.



There is something special about planes....
User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

Thanks, for the info CaptainK! I'm glad that things are going "well", relatively speaking. I don't know what's going on in Barbados, St. Vincent, and St. Lucia, all of which I know have a lot of flights. I certainly wish I knew what BWIA did with its fleet.

NMJ



God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Captaink,

Why do they fly Excel's crews to Margarita?
About that airline... I have no clue, what type of a/c do they fly? I saw many Cessna Caravans in Margarita the last time I was there back in April. Could've been one of those.


User currently offlineDB777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 885 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2251 times:
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Sorry, this post belongs in the non-aviation forum.

I got an e-mail this morning from a moderator stating that my "Hurricane Ivan following Frances" post did not belong in the Civil Aviation forum and that it was moved to the Non-Aviation forum. This was despite a comment in the post about wondering how many more hits the airports and airliner could take from these storms.

I mistakenly thought that these hurricanes disrupt hundreds of airline flights costing the airlines millions of dollars, I mistakenly thought these hurricanes cause scads of airports in the Caribbean, Bahamas and Florida to be seriously damaged, I mistakenly thought that these hurricanes destroy or seriously damage scads of civil aircraft all over the impacted areas, and I mistakenly thought that these hurricanes totally screw up air travel plans for tens of thousands of air travelers, including those A.Net forum members.

I must have stupidly thought that disrupted flights, serious damage to civil airports, serious damage to civil aircraft and serious disruption of airline travel plans would somehow be related to civil aviation and thus I posted in that forum. My apologies, I was wrong.

Don



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User currently offlineInbound From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2001, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

hey guys,

I'm not sure what BWIA has done with their jets, but Tobago Express has sent their Dash8s to Guyana until further notice.

Tobago is currently experiencing severe winds and there are reports of ripped off roof and fallen power lines, trees etc. No reports of casualties yet, thank goodness.

Here in Trinidad the sky is definitely overcast and wind speed is starting to increase out of the WEST. We are expecting conditions to deteriorate from about 3pm to 6pm local after which things should calm down a bit here on the southernmost islands.

The islands of Grenada and St. Vincent may feel the worst of it yet...I wish them the best there and I hope they are prepared..as much as they can.
The news is saying Barbados is already in "clean up mode" after being under a heavy beating.



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User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2194 times:

I'm glad that things are going okay in Trinidad. I am very concerned about Grenada. The eye is only 35 miles south of the island when I last checked.

I must say though, if there is a silver lining, it's the fact that Ivan is moving very fast. Our friends in Florida and the Bahamas wished that was the case with Frances. Even though she weakened, she stood still for a very long time.

On a lighter note, if there ever was a time to see if all that money that was invested into Piarco's new terminal was a good investment, it's now.  Smile

Neil



God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
User currently offlineBEG2IAH From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 968 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2142 times:
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This hurricane formed on the day of my birthday, and it's called just like me. I have this kinda creepy feeling... Hope everyone will be ok.

BEG2IAH
(Ivan)



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User currently offlineBENNETT123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7613 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

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Any news about damafe to aircraft or airport facilities esp Concorde.


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2100 times:

Now it looks like us in mainland Venezuela will get some rain and winds from Ivan. I'll let you guys know when it hits Caracas prolly sometime around midnight or tomorrow morning.

By the way... flights to/from cities on Venezuela's eastern coast (Margarita Island, Cumaná and Carúpano) have been cancelled. Ferryboat service from mainland to Margarita Island is suspended until further notice. There's also a rumor that Aeropostal is sending all of its planes based in CCS to Maracaibo in western Venezuela... but I'm not sure about this.

[Edited 2004-09-07 23:38:47]

User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2019 times:

Well... last nite we had some rain, normal rain. The eye is 100 miles out the coast and is aiming at Jamaica. Will pass near the ABC islands (Aruba-Curaçao-Bonaire). More rain is expected in Venezuela and a tropical storm warning is on effect for all of Venezuela's coasts.

User currently offlineTasha From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

"Trinidad will get a "glancing blow", but the eye will pass just north of Tobago"

Yes that is what really frightens me. Tobago is far less developed than Trinidad and dare I say it far poorer in general. I hope everything will be okay there and not too much damage.

Ivan is an evil looking storm. Unfortunately it is also headed straight into the Gulf, and I live right on the coast not too far from New Orleans; so I'm really going to watch this one close.

Tasha  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


[Edited 2004-09-08 17:28:32]

[Edited 2004-09-08 17:31:58]

User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Just came in.... CCS has been closed to all traffic. There are no planes allowed to take off or land in CCS. Looks like the worse is about to start for us in central Venezuela.

25 Post contains images Luisde8cd : Sequence of pictures taken from my window a few minutes ago. Right now it's raining really hard. Take a look at the buldings on the back and how they
26 NG737PSR : To all of the airport ground staff, hotel staff and people that look after our crews on the Excel Airways B767-300 TF-ATU, as well as everyone living
27 Post contains images Kim777fan : I have a good friend flying down to Florida today to check out a couple of K-Marts he may sign as commercial re-building. Hope he knows to get the #e!
28 YVRtoYYZ : Any more updates on how the regions of the south Caribbean survived Ivan? I'm assuming power is out, etc. and therefore little - if any - information
29 LimaFoxTango : I now understand that Ivan is heading towards Jamaica at category 5!!
30 Luisde8cd : Would be good to have CaptainK check in, since he's from Grenada and from what I've read on the news, Grenada was directly-hit by Ivan's eye and there
31 Trintocan : Yes, Ivan has struck hard. There have been 12 reported deaths in Grenada and one each in Tobago, Barbados and Venezuela. On an aviation front Point Sa
32 WestIndian425 : Well, I've read that the Control Tower at Point Salines (TGPY) has suffered so much damage that the airport is now considered (by U.S. standards) unco
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