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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4801 posts, RR: 44
Posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Here is the update to the Indian Govt's open skies policy for this winter :

a) LUFTHANSA on Monday announced that it would take up the open sky offer and operate a daily flight between Bangalore and Frankfurt.

*B 747-437B (Sean) would know for sure which aircraft would operate on this route...I would guess A 343 as they currently fly this aircraft to BLR. Btw...how good are LHs First class loads to and from BLR?

b) GULF AIR will take up the offer and are in the process of evaluating it right now. They operate to seven cities here and are in the process of firming up which of these cities we should increase flights to during the period.

c) KUWAIT AIRWAYS is also examining various options. The airline is examining the situation and depending on demand and aircraft availability, we would consider making use of the offer made by the Government," said Mr Pran Dasan, Manager (Sales and Marketing), Indian Subcontinent.

Pran is our very own "VIMANAV"  Smile


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User currently offlineSpdbrdConcorde From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

a) LUFTHANSA on Monday announced that it would take up the open sky offer and operate a daily flight between Bangalore and Frankfurt

Did they not do that since they launched the service Confused
BTW...How do i quote on this forum
Thanks


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

We use the FRA-BLR nonstop often where I work, so I'm surprised that its not currently operating.

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User currently offlineSpdbrdConcorde From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

I used to live in BLR ( under finals to Rwy 27....3 miles out) and LH started to fly to BLR in 2001 everyday ..If i am not wrong.did they stop ever since than...  Confused

User currently offlineAirish From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 259 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

It is surprising that LUFTHANSA wants to make the FRA-BLR daily when it is supposed to be a daily joint operation with Air India soon


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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4801 posts, RR: 44
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

Currently, LH flies 5 times a week to BLR from FRA nonstop with A 343s.

It used to be daily last winter during open skies 03-04 and possibly the winter b4 that too.

Whats the latest regarding their HYD flights?


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1960 times:

Did they not do that since they launched the service
BTW...How do i quote on this forum


As Behramjee said about FRA-BLR. You can quote as you like. I do the following:

I type < i > (without space), then copy/paste the text to cite, the < / i > to end the citation..

Whats the latest regarding their HYD flights?

Interesting question, I would like to know, too. Is this announcement, that AI might start flights HYD-FRA in cooperation with LH to be taken serious (afaik they said sth about this winter, but this seems bizarre to me)?

Then, maybe Sean can update us about whether BOM-NBO-LOS will take off this winter finally, and whether there are prospects for the 'earlier this year euphoric discussed' proposed route BOM-JBG-GRU... and: what about YYZ/SFO?? Any updates when this will happen??

Sorry, too many questions at a time  Smile


User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1811 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1952 times:

Doesn't all this depend on whether AI gets its new planes, which seems rather unlikely for some time to come ?


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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1956 times:

Doesn't all this depend on whether AI gets its new planes, which seems rather unlikely for some time to come ?

Unluckily not. Sean has pointed out that the Government OS Policies were rather unilateral and did only favor Foreign competitors, since AI could not use bilaterals

If your question was referred to the HYD expansion: the anwer is of course yes Big grin

How is the recent leasing process for the 17+3 going? Any updates?


User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

HYD would be amazing!
I remember reading that both BA and LH were planning service to HYD but I believe Sean quickly put to rest those rumours.

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineACAfan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 710 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

I have a feeling the runway at HYD is not quite long enough. AND there is no reason to expand Begumpet if in a few years time there will be a sparkling new airport at Shamshabad.

BTW, how is that project coming along?

========================================

Wilbur:
[over radio] Mugwomp tower, Mugwomp tower, this is Albatross One Three requesting permission to land. Over?

Jake:
Albatross? [Jake flips over the checkerboard to a chart that has various bird sizes] Let's see... finch, wren, scrub bird, lockeet, freckled duck, culah, kukaberra, parrot, cockatoo, alba... alba...?!?! It's a jumbo!! [into radio] Negative one three, you'll have to turn back, our runway isn't long enough for a bird your size.

Wilbur:
Not long enough?!? Look pal, I can land this thing on a dime!

Bernard:
[heard over radio] Uh... Wilbur, if, if the runway isn't long enough...

Wilbur:
Listen you can't let these radar jockeys push you around. Just leave it to me alright?

Jake:
[into radio] I say again mate, our runway is too short.



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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1663 times:

Whats about hte long awaited OS flight VIE-BOM

User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1597 times:

When a Govt announces a open sky policy it is usually for the country. After all the Civil Aviation Ministry is not just for one airline for the aviation industry.

Unfortunately, the idiots in Rajeev Bhavan, led by Mr.Prafull Patel havent learnt that basic truth yet. Hence Civil Aviation policy remains finding out ways to preserve the shit that is Air India. It is this mentality that has turned Air India into a millstone around Indias neck. Air India is holding back the growth in the entire aviation sector.

It is high time that Mr.Prafull Patel understood that he is the Minister for Civil Aviation and not the Minister for Air India. He should be working towards the development of Aviation and not the protection of Air Indias monopoly.

-Roy


User currently offlineBOEING787 From India, joined May 2004, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

Delta will operate an additional daily BOM - JFK via FRA during this periodwith 767-300 and Northwest will operate a daily BOM - AMS - MSP route with DC-10 equipment.

TN01NOVBOMJFK/ADL
** AMADEUS - TN ** JFK JOHN F KENNEDY.USNY 01NOV04 08NOV04
1 DL 119 D BOM 2 JFK 3 0220 1305 1 31OCT04 26MAR05 763 21:15
2 DL 107 D BOM 2 JFK 3 0001 1530 1 02NOV04 01MAR05 763 25:59

TN01NOVBOMMSP/ANW
** AMADEUS - TN ** MSP MINNEAPOLIS.USMN 01NOV04 08NOV04
1 NW 045 D BOM 2 MSP L 0530 1605 1 02NOV04 03JAN05 EQV 22:05
2 NW 041 D BOM 2 MSP L 0120 1250 1 31OCT04 14DEC04 EQV 23:00



User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4801 posts, RR: 44
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1552 times:

DL-NWA extra flights BOM was brought to our notice on a.net a few months ago by B 747-437B so its now old news  Smile

Also Etihad starts BOM sept 26th 7 weekly A 332/A343s...tues and sat dont have any flights however some days have dbl daily and some dont like SUN.

For more :

http://www.etihadairways.com/FlightSchedules/FlightSchedules.asp


User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1516 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

I have a feeling the runway at HYD is not quite long enough

You are absolutely right. Rwy 27 at HYD has a maximum length of 2996m which may cause the A340-300 which LH is planning on the route to have weight penalties. LH on its part has already done its groundwork and even identified the person to head the station.

By the way EK is planning something like 150 extra sections and innumerable upgrades during the open sky. A pity if they repeat what they did last year. Put B773s into DEL and then cut DEL-DXB OW fares to INR 5500 to fill in the those planes. Nuts

Al Jazeera - the new Kuwait based airline is also seriously exploring the possibility of India operations shortly and have initiated first steps with the Ministry and DGCA.

rgds//Vimanav



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