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User currently offlineJan Ove Larssen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 694 times:

Is it true that many russian built aircrafts are not allowed to land on many european int. airports due
to noise-restrictions?

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User currently offlineJetstream 61 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 693 times:

In cases such as the old Tupolev airliners yes.

User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 691 times:

I can say you that here in FAO, there are no problems with Tu-154; Tu-134; Il-62 and Il-96.

In fact, much more noiser than this russian planes is the BAC-111.

Luis, Faro, Portugal


User currently offlineAntonov From Croatia, joined Jun 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 693 times:

Well we all know the upcoming problems with noise levels and stage2 restrictions (and hushkit-models) as from the year 2002.
Most of the European airports want to ban noisy or old aircraft as from 2002, but some airports are eager to ban some types sooner.
Belgium has already made a blacklist with some B707's which cannot operate in Belgian airspace anylonger. The Belgian Airport called Ostend (which is frequently visited by different type of Russian freighters like IL76, AN124, AN12, AN26, IL18, TU154,...click here if you want to read about Ostend flights) is already struggling with noise restrictions. The IL76 is making so much turbulence and noise, that the politicians in Belgium are categorizing it as a Stage 2 aircraft and all aircraft which are not classified under Stage 3 should pay almost 50% more airport taxes when they operate into or from Ostend over night ! So it is the same as for example the B707.
The average of the Russians are noisy, but have you heard the Concorde taking off ??
And believe me that a DC8, DC10 or B707 can sometimes make as much noise as some Russians.
To answer to your question, I don't know which airports could/will restrict only Russians from entering, but I do know that some airports try to get rid of them.


User currently offlineIl76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 48
Reply 4, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 693 times:

In Holland, we cannot totally ban noisy aircraft. They just have to pay double when it comes to landingfees.
Russians are noisy yes, but not 'noisier' than a DC-9, 737-200, 727, BAC111 etc. They were designed at about the same time as those Western planes were...
The il76 is a seperate story. He's just LOUD!!! (I like it.. hehehe...) But it is stage 3. Stage 3 has something to do with bypass-ratio of the engine, and the il76 applies for stage 3 for that matter. But the An124 is stage2 for some strange reason. Maybe the 'stage-2/3'rules have more points of qualification.

Ed


User currently offlineAntonov From Croatia, joined Jun 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (15 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 693 times:

Well the reason why I stated the Stage 2 thing with IL76, was because the Belgian authorities just decided (just like that) that all IL76 that operate on Ostend are considered stage 2 instead of stage 3. Of course it is not fair, but who will do something about it? It shows how eager the airports are to ban noisy or older aircraft !

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