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More Info On Latest Caravelle Crash?  
User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4878 times:

I found this on Planes.cz

07.09.2004
Z nebe zmizel další vzácný a zajímavý stroj – Caravelle SE210. 27.08. se při přistání na letišti Gisenyi (Rwanda) u hranic s Demokratickou republikou Kongo zřítila Caravelle SE210-11R registrace 3D-KIK. Majitelem stroje je uváděn Jacques „Kiki“ Lemaire. Osoba podezřelá z přepravy diamantů od angolské svého času protivládní organizace UNITA k překupníkům a zbraní od překupníků pro UNITA. Dřívějším majitelem 36 let staré Caravelle byl Gabon Express (3D-SEP). Jednalo se pravděpodobně o poslední létající Caravelle na světě

Translated from Czech, it says in short: on 27 August in Gisenyi Airport (Rwanda) 36-year-old Caravelle 3D-KIK (ex-Gabon Express, c/n 251) crashed. The article says it was the last flying Caravelle, but I think there are one or two still flying, and a number stored that could perhaps be made airworthy. I found in another place that this Caravelle burned and that no one was injured, but would like more info. What exactly happened here?


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User currently offlineMiamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4763 times:

I dont have the answer but found the topic interesting so I'm trying to keep it alive  Big grin

I have never seen a Caravelle in real life.. that's sad : )


User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1871 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4733 times:

It was one of the 3 caravelles used by the French Air force in French Polynesia. If I work for airlines today, it is because of those 3 fabulous birds.
I have been fascinated by the flexibility offered by their quick change capabilities.
It was possible to use them as full pax (90) or combi (72 seats + 1 88" plt, or 54 seats+2 plts). The seats were fixed on a plt.
This end makes me very sad but doesn't come as a surprise to me, due to the activities of Kiki Lemaire.
I know there was a project to make airworthy again the Caravelle used by De Gaulle, but I have no update on this project
Teva



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User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4640 times:

A forced landing of a Congolese aircraft
No victim was reported: the crew was safe,...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

But the caravelle...  Sad

Yours in realtime
JHSfan



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User currently offlineBENNETT123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7525 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4626 times:

JHSfan

Good to see what all on board are safe, but a shame about the SE210.

The only amusing point is the statement that the cargo is entirely danaged. I think BBQ'd is the word that I would use.

Does anyone know what the technical problem was?.


User currently offlineKEESJE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4629 times:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Jan Mogren



http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=3D-SEP&distinct_entry=true

Was the starboard engine ok ?

...


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4626 times:

I believe Gabon Express still had a Caravelle 10B, not sure if it's still flying. Sad that another one of these beautiful aircraft was destroyed, but 35 years of flying is very respectable for any aircraft, especially one produced in such small numbers (only about 200 for all variants).  Sad

User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

That thing is TOAST! Glad no one was hurt.

FriendlySkies, that WAS the (ex-)Gabon Express Caravelle.


User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4383 times:

 Crying

 Crying

 Crying

 Crying

/JM



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User currently offlineTreg From Estonia, joined Oct 2001, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4313 times:

Jan Mogren has some excellent shots of this Caravelle on his site:

http://home.swipnet.se/airline/gabon.html


User currently offlineKEESJE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4243 times:

Jan Mogren,

Great detailed / dynamic / crowded

shots of a revolutionairy aircraft...








User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2590 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4113 times:
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Why does it smoke from one engine?

User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4075 times:

Thanks Treg and Keesje!

Only one engine had the nozzle modification done. The other engine smoked.

/JM



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User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1964 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3987 times:

Thank you for the great Web site, Treg! Those air-to-air shots are magnificent, definitely enhancing the lines of that beautiful aircraft.

I certainly miss "la belle Caravelle."



The aeroplane has unveiled for us the true face of the earth. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery
User currently offlineAirAmericaC46 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 590 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

Miamix707,

Sorry to hear that you haven't seen a Caravelle jet in real life. I used to feast when I was growing up in MNL on a Caravelle jet operated by Sterling Philippines Airways (a subsidiary of Sterling of Denmark) flying charters from MNL to HKG competing with Air Manila International B707 charters as well! Caravelle is one of my top 3 best-looking aircrafts.

Last year, I had another encounter with a CVL jet------in CMH!! It was parked near the cargo area----it had markings of Airborne Express! I'm not sure if it still there. Anybody knows? Also anybody knows what routes did it fly for Airborne Express and what years? Thank you in advance for the answers.


User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3817 times:

I saw a couple in BOG. Converted to freighters, but the aerocivil declared them un-airworthy as there was no substantiation for the structure done. The owner of the airlanes said he swore by them. That was in 2001.

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