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HKG And China Strike New Air Pact!  
User currently offlineCXoneWorld From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 325 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

The much anticipated air service agreement between mainland China and Hong Kong has finally concluded: Chinese carriers will be given fifth rights to operate out of Hong Kong whereas CX is cleared to fly to Shanghai and Xiamen.


[Edited 2004-09-08 12:49:03]

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User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4652 posts, RR: 69
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2975 times:

Shanghai will only be cleared for CX passenger service in a distant 2 years from now. No detailed news regarding the Beijing flights. I guess Cathay wants to reinforce their current schedule to Beijing as soon as possible.

User currently offlineAC From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2004, 77 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2954 times:

Good news to CX although the new flights could only start in Oct 2006. Wait to see how KA react in coming 2 years.

I Believe I Can Fly...
User currently offlineAA623BDLSJU From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

This is great news.

Although, it kinda sucks that CX won't see PVG nor XMN until October 2006.

Maybe, I'll go to China on CX for my birthday when they begin the new service.

User currently offlineCXoneWorld From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2882 times:


It's a good start but obviously the deal still falls short of an "open sky" many commentators have previously anticipated.

Besides CX's (re-)entry to PVG and XMN, the most exciting aspect of the agreement is that it entails the set up of a 4th passenger carrier in Hong Kong, flying predominately Chinese routes.


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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

As Hong Kong is part of China why is a pact needed?

User currently offlineCospn From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1929 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

Good Point Supose they could do Anything they wanted to Domestic HKG-China..Sen. Lujan in Guam would Love to have Open Skies and allow anyone to Fly GUM-USA to compete with CO does PPT have an Airsevice agreement with France..dont thing so CO needed French Govt permission to fly GUM-NOU

User currently offlineCX346 From Greenland, joined Apr 2003, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

The deal is absolutely ludicrous. The communist machinery is so keen on breeding their own airline champions, they don't stop at nothing to keep CX from realizing their full China potential. The sale to Beijing of Dragonair was part of the Hong Kong handover and ordained by Downing street. In a free market, CX would buy China Eastern, resume control over Dragonair, and be done with it. I have some friends at CX management and the frustration with Beijing is mounting. All that misdirected emerging nationalism. They should concentrate on solving their environmental and social problems and leave the markets alone.

User currently offlineB-HOP From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2000, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2611 times:

This is China mate, it is all about connection, connection, connection. Why would they let someone else tap into your market when: -

A/ The chairman holds certain position in the party.
B/ The voice of that chairman gets though to the management in the party (old boys club).
C/ They think central government already give enough to HK anyway.
D/ HK population wants an open sky with everybody else, not realizing the huge impact on yield/crowding out etc. Read an article from an assistant prof from HK Poly University and I can't stop laughing for five minutes! Simple, EVERYBODY (excludes CXFlyboy maybe) thinks CX is a MONOPLY in HK, but not knowing what impact would bring when a free for all market open up.
E/ CX would outdone MU anyway.

CZ do have certain 5th freedom right out of HK anyway, could KA and CX do that from Guangzhou?

Its politics


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User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

SADLY, there is no such thing called a real FREE MARKET, it neither exists in Hong Kong nor anywhere else in this world.

Best Regards.

User currently offlineB2443 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 715 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2535 times:

yeah, blame on the communist China for CX's own greedy needs. If free market only means CX can do whatever she wants and WHEN she pleases, sorry the game is not played like this and its never "fair". However those were the terms both parties agreed on, "fairness" was out of the question. CX does have a choice not to agree on the terms she does not like. But she did so blame her for doing so.

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