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Delta To Cut 6000 - 7000 Jobs Over Next 18 Mnths  
User currently offlineAirTrader From Netherlands, joined Jun 2004, 40 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5315 times:

Here are the key items:
Key initiatives include:
-- Updating and upgrading customer products and services, including
cabins and online functionality, and maintaining two-class service in
mainline operations;
-- Redesigning Atlanta's hub operation to add more flights for greater
customer choice and reliability while simultaneously reducing
congestion;
-- Dehubbing Delta's Dallas/Ft. Worth operation and re-deploying those
assets to grow hub operations in Atlanta, Cincinnati and Salt Lake
City;
-- Adding 31 new nonstop flights to 19 additional destinations from key
focus cities;
-- Growing Song, initially by 12 aircraft;
-- Reducing fleet complexity by retiring at least four fleet types in
four years and increasing overall fleet utilization and efficiency;
-- Eliminating 6,000-7,000 jobs over the next 18 months, lowering
management overhead costs by 15 percent, and reducing pay and
benefits; and
-- Creating an Employee Reward Program to include equity, profit sharing
and performance-based incentive payouts.



Cabin Crew: doors to manuel and crossdress
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User currently offlineDeltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5234 times:


DALLAS IS DEAD - only 21 flights left!!

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040908/clw033_1.html


User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6098 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5206 times:

So 4 fleet type's going! That would be MD-80/MD-90/B733, and?

ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5186 times:

I'm surprised by the increase in Song. Didn't the CEO want to focus on premium service rather than LCC-ish service?

As739x, maybe the 762s are going? DL has plenty of 752s and 763/4 to fill in I'm sure. They really don't have that many types to be retiring AT LEAST 4, if they dump the ones listed, they will only have 767-300, 767-400, 757-200, 737-800, 777-200 (unless they are getting rid of those too!). I just hope DL can manage to stay out of bankruptcy, but with unions, who knows...


User currently offlineBucky707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5124 times:

"So 4 fleet type's going! That would be MD-80"


The 88s are not leaving, at least not until their normal retirement dates. 732s, 733s, 73Gs (for all the non Delta types, that is our 737-300Gs), and last the 762s.

[Edited 2004-09-08 15:11:26]

User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4875 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5089 times:
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A little difficult to get rid of the 777s especially since they plan on applying for U.S.-China authority...

User currently offlineBucky707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5067 times:

"A little difficult to get rid of the 777s especially since they plan on applying for U.S.-China authority..."


yeah, I edited my post after I heard that part!


User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2534 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5005 times:

I agree with Bucky707. 737-200, 737-3G, 767-200 and MD-90. The MD88 fleet is too large to get rid of at this time. We are also spending money to refurbish the interiors, Which I might add looks very good. Ship 9000 is almost done.

User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6098 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

Bucky..good call. Being on the "Left Coast" I forgot about the 732!

ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4643 times:

" Atlanta will go over 1000 daily Delta (mainline/connection/Song; does not include SkyTeam partners) flights." This is just plane STUPID!!!

Whenever it rains or snows in Atlanta is screws up the whole Delta system. This will now only get worse! Further, one of the big problems for people traveling from the northeast to the west is that they don't want to go through Atlanta as it is too far south and adds too much time to their trips. This will not attract the Business travelers!! They would have been better off growing CVG and SLC mainline and reducing ATL. I know they said they were increasing CVG, but all but one of the new flights will be Comscare! By spreading out the mainline flights to the three hubs, they would attract more business travelers from the NE, have a more efficient route structure, and reduce the operating costs associated with the delays in ATL. I guess the DL brass still continue to drink too much of that ATL koolaid!

This restructuring will not do the job. DL is bankruptcy bound!



Tailwinds!!!
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4555 times:

That's a hasty overdramatization. Yes, Atlanta is still a bottleneck but the other identified ways to save money are great.

N


User currently offlineBIGBlack From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 600 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4496 times:

I like how the press mentioned the Song move is surprising also considering Grinstein himself was a Song critic. I guess all that positive feedback helped him change his mind.


Someone special in the air
User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1876 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4495 times:

Dalmd88-

The interior update you were refering too, Is it the cabin design, Are they getting 717 style cabins? Also, Does that include the new seats?


User currently offlineJfrworld From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4470 times:

Does Anyone know how many mainline flights Delta had at DFW at its peak (early 90's) and how many mainline flights they currently have today (prior to announcement)?

User currently offlineOrd From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4439 times:

Jfrworld - The peak for Delta mainline flights at DFW was right around 260. That was in 1991, when their share of the DFW market was about 30%. The 260 dropped to around 225 by 1993 and 212 in 1994. Then there was a major route restructuring in spring 1995 and DFW fell to 195. By 1997 the total had dropped to 135. After 9/11 Delta reduced flights at DFW to 95. Then in the DFW restructuring in early 2003 the total went down again to about 65. Today it stands at 52 I believe.

User currently offlineN160LH From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4323 times:

You cats are in denial about the MD-88 fleet. The 88's are going bye-bye, and its not a moment to soon. The 88 can not fly the "the long-haul" routes, and they sure as heck can not fly heavy loads. The 800 will take the place of the 88, and leave DL with a PURE Boeing fleet-737-800, 757-200, 767-200/300/300er/400er, 777-200.


N160LH



"I do alright up in the air, its down on the ground that I tend to mess up..."
User currently offlineNW7E7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 533 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4291 times:

What will DL use to fill the gap between CR7's and 738's? They arent in the position to buy the E190's!

User currently offlineN160LH From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4263 times:

DL is not the position to buy a vowel right now... Let alone a plane. My GUESS would be that they would do away with the need. Or I guess you could look at it in another view that their is still 4 yrs away from when they say all this will be done. Maybe the 737-200/300 will be the last to go, but I am betting with a 120 MD-88 it will be the last to go. The whole industry could look a whole lot different in 4 years, DL could be leading the way again... You never know... Just have to keep hoping.

N160LH



"I do alright up in the air, its down on the ground that I tend to mess up..."
User currently offlineNonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4258 times:

This is just plane STUPID!!!

In a statement issued by the Federal Aviation Administration, Delta was
praised for its plans to redesign the operation at Hartsfield-Jackson
Atlanta International Airport. "De-peaking at Hartsfield-Jackson is
equivalent to eliminating the rush hour on Atlanta's Perimeter or
Connector," said FAA Administrator Marion C. Blakey in the statement.
"We applaud Delta's taking a more rational and reliable scheduling
approach that will benefit travelers and on-time performance." Blakey
was commenting on one element of Delta's Transformation Plan - making
Atlanta a continuous hub, resulting in less congestion and the ability
to grow. With this redesign, Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International
Airport is the largest hub operation in the world for any carrier.


So not only is the Delta upper management incompetent, but so is the FAA, right?  Laugh out loud

B


User currently offlineN160LH From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4233 times:

Okay NonrevKing-

Me and you seem to agree on nothing.... How you think this stupid is beyond me. It makes prefect since... DL will have less planes leaving and arriving at the same time. This will make ATL have less traffic at peck times, this a good thing for everybody... Even FL. I will give that DL upper management incompetent but the FAA I do not think so scooter.


N160LH



"I do alright up in the air, its down on the ground that I tend to mess up..."
User currently offlineBucky707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

"You cats are in denial about the MD-88 fleet. The 88's are going bye-bye, and its not a moment to soon. The 88 can not fly the "the long-haul" routes, and they sure as heck can not fly heavy loads. The 800 will take the place of the 88, and leave DL with a PURE Boeing fleet-737-800, 757-200, 767-200/300/300er/400er, 777-200."


ah yeah, thats why the 88 is the first one to get the new interior. Straight from the DFW Ch Pilot. The 732s. 733s, 73Gs and 762s are going to be retired. None right away, but as their leases expire over the next four years.



User currently offlineN160LH From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4160 times:

Okay time will tell which type it is... my money is still on the 88 to take an exit.

[Edited 2004-09-09 01:21:01]


"I do alright up in the air, its down on the ground that I tend to mess up..."
User currently offlineNonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4137 times:

N160LH...

I was quoting Skibum from reply #9. He was ridiculing Delta for the ATL enhancements.

We're on the same team.  Big grin

B


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 962 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4082 times:

Straight from the DFW Ch Pilot. The 732s. 733s, 73Gs and 762s are going to be retired. None right away, but as their leases expire over the next four years.

The abbreviation 73G typically refers to the 737-700, and I wasn't aware DL had purcashed any of these. If they are leased, who is their current lessor? I didn't see anything on DL's fleet page-

http://www.delta.com/travel/plan/aircraft_types/index.jsp


User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4059 times:

It sucks that that many people got laid off.
I may not like DL that much but this is hardly thrilling news.



None shall pass!!!!
25 Gigneil : You cats are in denial about the MD-88 fleet. The 88's are going bye-bye, and its not a moment to soon. The 88 can not fly the "the long-haul" routes,
26 Post contains links and images NonRevKing : http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1732380/ Reply #49 Come on Richie, I know you saw it... B[Edited 2004-09-09 02:09:24]
27 Post contains images Deltabobo : For all you ATL bashers, have you realized that ATL is building a new runway to deal with the delays. The way that airport is built, and most of all,
28 N160LH : GIGneil- I do not think I would call it Multiple personalities, either way I will make my statements a little more clear. From what I understand about
29 Travelin man : From the press release: SUSTAIN PROFITABLE GROWTH -- Increasing international service: Delta intends to file for new U.S. - China service -- Delta wil
30 Fanoftristars : How is DL going to add any more RJ service to SLC?? The "E" concourse is already a clusterf@#k. Any concrete plans for the expansion of SLC? I'm guess
31 OPNLguy : >>>The abbreviation 73G typically refers to the 737-700, and I wasn't aware DL had purcashed any of these. If they are leased, who is their current le
32 FlyPNS1 : How is DL going to add any more RJ service to SLC?? The "E" concourse is already a clusterf@#k. Any concrete plans for the expansion of SLC? DL has a
33 Post contains images Richierich : Thanks Spot This. I saw it. But clearly you must think I'm a heartless knob if you believe that I am glad of it. I've said lots of stuff about Song an
34 Post contains images NonRevKing : But you seem to think (and gloat) the fact that you believe I got fired from Jetblue? How do you come to this conclusion? B
35 Av8trxx : "CEO Gerald Grinstein, in remarks to employees, described the top-to-bottom overhaul as a "comprehensive, 360-degree plan that reinvents Delta."" Woul
36 Post contains images Richierich : I'm sorry if it appears that I am gloating. I am not and would not want to have that be 'misinterpreted'. Let's just say that you left a legacy behind
37 Richierich : Well, I have successfully strayed off course on this subject long enough. It sucks that that many people got laid off. Amen to that. Oh wait! I said i
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