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A380 At SXM  
User currently offlineUnitedkatw From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 54 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4771 times:

What is the possibility of the A380 taking a turn for SXM. I'd love to see a shot of an A380 flying right over the beach. Any thought or expertise.

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User currently offlineJfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4715 times:

don't think its gonna happen... i believe the 747-400 can not even take off with full load correct? so i don't think the a380 is going to unless they add a docked runway on one side

User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4708 times:

No way. The jetblast would be too heavy, the plane could not turn at the small turning plate in the end and I doubt the teakeoff and climb performance are good enough to evoid the mountains.
Also, much more important, I guess with mostly props, 57s from the USA and some heavies from Europe, the yield might not be there.



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User currently offlineDirkou From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 571 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4652 times:

Nudelhirsch: where do you have the technical information to say that?
I think A380 operations will not be too different from the B747-400...


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4609 times:

I think A380 operations will not be too different from the B747-400...

Except that the outboard engines are 25' farther out from the centerline. That's a LOT at a tight little airport like SXM.

Steve


User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4448 times:

Would it be economical? AF are the only ones operating into SXM that are current future operators of the A380 and the size difference between the 340 and 380 is a little bit different.

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17014 posts, RR: 67
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4193 times:

Takeoff and landing performance per se is fine, but lateral clearance and turning are problems.


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User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4100 times:

I'm sure the A380 can take off just fine from SXM, but the on ground layout isn't really A380 friendly.

Was there last week, amazing place... seems as though the reclamation for the new terminals is going ahead at a decent pace.


User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2104 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4033 times:

It's not that the A380 can't be accommodated. Remember this airplane still fits into the 80 x 80 meter box that is the industry standard. That was a design parameter.

But as for seeing it in SXM that is not likely. What airline that flies there, would purchase an A380 and put it on that route? I can't think of one.

St. Maartin to/from anywhere is not a high density route.



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17014 posts, RR: 67
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3867 times:

It's not that the A380 can't be accommodated. Remember this airplane still fits into the 80 x 80 meter box that is the industry standard.

It actually became the industry standard when the 380 was being designed, and as a result of that design process. Airbus had to go to the operators and airports and ask how big they could make the darned thing. I bet they wanted to make it bigger  Big grin

So most airports are not really A380 certified in terms of the box, but their 747 gates often have a bit of space on either side and the runways are wider than necessary.



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User currently offlineQantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5852 posts, RR: 40
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3183 times:

no chance of seeing the A380 at SXM, just look at the customers and none of them even fly to SXM!

and the 747 has to operate with reduced load due to the shortened runway length.



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User currently offlineHannigan From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

Say goodbye to the Sunset Beach Bar the first time it departs...


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2733 times:

just look at the customers and none of them even fly to SXM!

...ya mean like Air France?


User currently offlineNycfuturepilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 791 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

If they ever have a major gathering or event on St Maartin then maybe youll see a charter there but you will never see commercial service. However, SXM could be a good destination for the 7E7.


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