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Mexicana A318 Status?  
User currently offlineMx330 From Mexico, joined Oct 2002, 829 posts, RR: 12
Posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3498 times:
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I know the time for them to be delivered is coming soon.
Does anybody know the status? When will they arrive?
Registrations?

Thanks

Juan APM


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3428 times:

MX's first 318 is cn 2328.

To give you reference, cn 2218 is due to be delivered 10.05.04

N


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3410 times:

Quote :

MX's first 318 is cn 2328.

To give you reference, cn 2218 is due to be delivered 10.05.04

N

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Eh ? I thought c/n 2218 was N806FT with Frontier? I heard this ferrying across the Pond to the USA on delivery on 11/5/04 as 'FFT806'. Is this now for MXA ??

Rob K
Reporting live from downtown Dewsbury, West Yorks, UK.


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

No.

MX's first is 2328. 2218, for F9, you're right. I confused the European date standard with the US. I was trying to provide an example of where the line would be on November 5th, not May 11th.

N


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5236 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

1st. MEXICANA A318 is 2328 as Gigneil said.

2328 XA-UBQ
2333 XA-UBR
2358 XA-UBS
2367 XA-UBT
2377 XA-UBU
2394 XA-UBV

First 6 A318s!


Gigneil - Glad to know the 1st A318s will be delivered on October 5th, 2004! I was told it was getting here between the 20 and 25th... and according to some rumors the first A318 perhaps will wear a special c/s!!!


Ricardo APM




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3379 times:

November or October ? I thought that month 10 was October ?  Laugh out loud  Smile

Rob K
Reporting live from downtown Dewsbury, West Yorks, UK.


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5236 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

Oops..... ahh been awake since 6 am! I need to go to bed! My mistake!

Truth..... Robk.... so we will see it on Nov 5th, 2004!! Too bad. I was told we would see the first between 20/25th....



Quote :

MX's first 318 is cn 2328.

To give you reference, cn 2218 is due to be delivered 10.05.04

N

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Eh ? I thought c/n 2218 was N806FT with Frontier? I heard this ferrying across the Pond to the USA on delivery on 11/5/04 as 'FFT806'. Is this now for MXA ??


CN 2218 is due for Frontier.... CN 2228 is due for MX!  Laugh out loud  Smile


Ricardo APM




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3337 times:

Quote:

CN 2218 is due for Frontier.... CN 2228 is due for MX!


Ricardo APM

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No!!! C/n 2228 is an A319LR with Air France as F-GRXH ! You mean c/n 2328 surely?  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5236 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3329 times:

Damn! Ouch! I lost the battle....... maybe next time I'll win!

Yes, 2328 is due for MX!  Nuts

Ricardo APM




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

Well now, looks like MX gets to spend a bunch of money on gas


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User currently offlineKnoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 260 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3280 times:

Delivery for MSN 2328 has been slated to 10-November-2004.


No matter what anybody tells you, words and ideas can change the world.
User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

Why does N1120a says so on reply 20?


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User currently offlineCessnalady From Mexico, joined May 2004, 310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

Ghost... Do tell us what you know about the "special" c/s!

Marie


User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

Sorry, I meant reply 9 instead of 20.


Over 80 years in business say a lot about success
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

Wow, this got out of hand.

MX's first 318 is 2328. It will probably not come this year.

I was trying to give an example of where the line was, currently, but apparently that just caused more confusion.

N


User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3047 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

Someone read my mind! I was just thinking about this two days ago. So what is the status are they going to get them this year or next year. From what I have read in the past they are suppose to get them later this year, around November and December.

Can't wait to see the A318 in MX colors. Whats the status of the F100s and what routes will see the A318? Any in the US, like ORDBig grin

Go Mexicana!!  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up

Thanks  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineNavega From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2906 times:

The A318's will give Mexiana flexability on most of their routes into the USA and Canada and also allow them to develope new routes like QUITO, DTW,
CHARLOTTE, and downsize in low seasons to YUL, YYZ, YVR.

Rumor has it that their new CEO wants to change the aircraft colors and
interiors. They just added DVD's to their Business Class product and are
revamping their meal services in Business Class which I think is very good
at the moment.

New Flight Attendant uniforms are also on the way.

N1120a, why would Mexicana spent money on gas?? A318s are fuel efficient
and from what I have read, more than the B737's. Please clarify and anyone
correct me if I am wrong.


User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

A318s are fuel efficient
and from what I have read, more than the B737's. Please clarify and anyone
correct me if I am wrong.


Not interested in an A vs B war here, but 737NG in comparison to their rivals at Airbus are between a 6% and 13% cheaper to operate.

Will try to post the source as it is interesting to compare such efficient pieces of metal of both builders.

About MX uniforms, I see no point at changing them; specially the single-piece dress the girls have. Looks flaming HOT !!!

RM  Smile



There are no stupid questions... just stupid people!
User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

I was not doing A v. B or 737 v. A32S. I was talking about the fact that the A318 (and to a lesser extent, the 736) is way too much plane for its capacity. That is the reason both planes have not sold like their siblings, simply because they drink too much Jet A for the PAX they carry. The thing about the 737NG v. A32S is that the 737s tend to be more efficient, a bit cheaper for mx and a bit longer range, but Airbus tends to offer lower aquisition costs, better financing and different amounts of mx aid for their craft. Also, Airbus offers the A321 which, though not much bigger than the 739, has the exits that allow more seating. This should change with the 739X. Again, I prefer the 737 for its looks and history, but never have a problem flying on an A32S. In fact, the only one of the A32S I have not done is the 318, so I will be looking to get a ride at some point. I will get a 739 ride in 2 weeks, so I will only need the 736 to complete that one.


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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1001 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2772 times:


Not interested in an A vs B war here, but 737NG in comparison to their rivals at Airbus are between a 6% and 13% cheaper to operate.


Well... so says Boeing. These figures vary from airline to airline, route to route, and do not really account for production availability and financing rates. If they did, then everyone in the world would have the 737....


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2757 times:

Not interested in an A vs B war here, but 737NG in comparison to their rivals at Airbus are between a 6% and 13% cheaper to operate.

No they're not. The average cost to operate of a 73G and 319 flips back and forth month to month.

AVITAS is the accepted standard for this information.

N


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7633 posts, RR: 42
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

I guess the whole point of N1120a's comment was that the new regional jets of comparable capacity are more fuel efficient than the A318 or the 736 for that matter. In any case, I think MX's choice was driven by two factors, one being fleet commonality (which is itself a way of saving money) and the second one being the range of the A318 which will allow MX to be more flexible in seasonal routes and start new thin routes to other countries like Navega explained.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5236 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2587 times:

Ghost... Do tell us what you know about the "special" c/s!

Since Navega has disclose some information, then I'll tell the others what I told you the other day via your email.

Since past June, some people at Mexicana has been thinking that its time for the airline to get a new and fresh C/S!

Now, that they'll be receiving the new Airbus 318s, Mexicana wants to take advantage of this and introduce the new c/s.

In case the new c/s doesn't get approval it is rumored that the first A318 will get a special color scheme for being the first A318 in Latin America. Perhaps Airbus has something to do with this! And Airbus is trying to get new customers like Taca, Tam and Lan Chile... who knows!


Ricardo APM




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7633 posts, RR: 42
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

JJ could be a good candidate for the A318 when they decide to get rid of the F100's, although they might want to replace them with A319's instead if the Brazilian market keeps on growing. In any case, it is really cool that MX will introduce the type in Latin America... I am sure Airbus is very happy and is putting together an interesting offer for MX to acquire widebodies.

Anybody know if MX is planning some sort of special "maiden" flight of the A318 with special introductory fares or a special anything?



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Anybody know if MX is planning some sort of special "maiden" flight of the A318 with special introductory fares or a special anything?

Not wanting to sound like a promo, but now that we're talking about "special anythings" and fares, did you guys know that "Los Martes son de Aviacsa"?  Big thumbs up

I just saw a pin on a CSA at MTY the other day and was intrigued to know more about it....

RM  Smile



There are no stupid questions... just stupid people!
25 Post contains images JoseMEX : >did you guys know that "Los Martes son de Aviacsa"?
26 Post contains images SR117 : Hmm this new CEO sure wants to get loose on the spending ! How long has MX had those standard colors?? 8 years or so?? I think it looks pretty good, b
27 Post contains links Airliner777 : I'm sorry to go off-topic, but is there any news about the A330s for MX available yet? Regards, Airliner777
28 Ghost77 : JJ could be a good candidate for the A318 when they decide to get rid of the F100's, although they might want to replace them with A319's instead if t
29 Post contains links HMOMX : "Los Martes son de Aviacsa"? What in the world!! Whats that all about? It's a special promo that Aviacsa started about two weeks ago. You can buy tick
30 Ghost77 : HMOMX, Thank you very much for the links! Its very interesting to see all this new ideas Aviacsa is bringing to our aviation! Nice fares! Ricardo APM
31 NAVEGA : The A318's will make their first flight to Quito or to Charlotte or to Detroit. I pick Detroit first.
32 A320319318 : probably LAX will be the first airport to receive the 318's. They always get the new aircraft.
33 Anthsaun : Is it really profitable for MX to fly an International route with such a small capacity airplane? How many pax does it take? A 100? 100 X $500.00 US =
34 JoseMEX : Anthony, >>100 X $500.00 US = $ 500,000
35 A320319318 : Anthsaun; Many MX routes are seasonal, both domestic and international. It makes more sense to downsize the aircraft 320-319-318, rather than have les
36 Anthsaun : Thanks JoseMEX for the correcting. An extra 0 makes a huge difference. A320319318: MX has just a few seasonal routes. Most of MX's routes are regular
37 A320319318 : Anthsaun; My appologies, I mean to say load factors are seasonal, of course most of MX routes are year round. tks
38 Post contains images N405MX : Can someone confirm that the first F100 to leave is the XA-SHI (Tampico)? I heard that today (Sep18) it was leaving service to go to maintenance and t
39 Ghost77 : Can someone confirm that the first F100 to leave is the XA-SHI (Tampico)? I heard that today (Sep18) it was leaving service to go to maintenance and t
40 Post contains images N405MX : Yep, thanks for the info, today (19Sep) XA-SHI visited MTY on MX12/140, full flight. And to complete the info about MX1690/1691: MX1691/17SEP MEX/OUT
41 Jetmek319 : To Update the status for ya'll... MSN 2328 is in the wing mate station today (Sep 20). MSN 2318 is F9's, not 2218. Jetmek319
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