Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2775 times:
MX's first 318 is cn 2328.
To give you reference, cn 2218 is due to be delivered 10.05.04
RobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3932 posts, RR: 19 Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2757 times:
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MX's first 318 is cn 2328.
To give you reference, cn 2218 is due to be delivered 10.05.04
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Eh ? I thought c/n 2218 was N806FT with Frontier? I heard this ferrying across the Pond to the USA on delivery on 11/5/04 as 'FFT806'. Is this now for MXA ??
Rob K
Reporting live from downtown Dewsbury, West Yorks, UK.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2742 times:
No.
MX's first is 2328. 2218, for F9, you're right. I confused the European date standard with the US. I was trying to provide an example of where the line would be on November 5th, not May 11th.
Gigneil - Glad to know the 1st A318s will be delivered on October 5th, 2004! I was told it was getting here between the 20 and 25th... and according to some rumors the first A318 perhaps will wear a special c/s!!!
Ricardo APM
Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
Ghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5128 posts, RR: 53 Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2700 times:
Oops..... ahh been awake since 6 am! I need to go to bed! My mistake!
Truth..... Robk.... so we will see it on Nov 5th, 2004!! Too bad. I was told we would see the first between 20/25th....
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MX's first 318 is cn 2328.
To give you reference, cn 2218 is due to be delivered 10.05.04
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Eh ? I thought c/n 2218 was N806FT with Frontier? I heard this ferrying across the Pond to the USA on delivery on 11/5/04 as 'FFT806'. Is this now for MXA ??
CN 2218 is due for Frontier.... CN 2228 is due for MX!
Ricardo APM
Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2634 times:
Well now, looks like MX gets to spend a bunch of money on gas
Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2420 times:
Wow, this got out of hand.
MX's first 318 is 2328. It will probably not come this year.
I was trying to give an example of where the line was, currently, but apparently that just caused more confusion.
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2958 posts, RR: 30 Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2403 times:
Someone read my mind! I was just thinking about this two days ago. So what is the status are they going to get them this year or next year. From what I have read in the past they are suppose to get them later this year, around November and December.
Can't wait to see the A318 in MX colors. Whats the status of the F100s and what routes will see the A318? Any in the US, like ORD?
Navega From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2253 times:
The A318's will give Mexiana flexability on most of their routes into the USA and Canada and also allow them to develope new routes like QUITO, DTW,
CHARLOTTE, and downsize in low seasons to YUL, YYZ, YVR.
Rumor has it that their new CEO wants to change the aircraft colors and
interiors. They just added DVD's to their Business Class product and are
revamping their meal services in Business Class which I think is very good
at the moment.
New Flight Attendant uniforms are also on the way.
N1120a, why would Mexicana spent money on gas?? A318s are fuel efficient
and from what I have read, more than the B737's. Please clarify and anyone
correct me if I am wrong.
N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2119 times:
I was not doing A v. B or 737 v. A32S. I was talking about the fact that the A318 (and to a lesser extent, the 736) is way too much plane for its capacity. That is the reason both planes have not sold like their siblings, simply because they drink too much Jet A for the PAX they carry. The thing about the 737NG v. A32S is that the 737s tend to be more efficient, a bit cheaper for mx and a bit longer range, but Airbus tends to offer lower aquisition costs, better financing and different amounts of mx aid for their craft. Also, Airbus offers the A321 which, though not much bigger than the 739, has the exits that allow more seating. This should change with the 739X. Again, I prefer the 737 for its looks and history, but never have a problem flying on an A32S. In fact, the only one of the A32S I have not done is the 318, so I will be looking to get a ride at some point. I will get a 739 ride in 2 weeks, so I will only need the 736 to complete that one.
Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
DfwRevolution From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2119 times:
Not interested in an A vs B war here, but 737NG in comparison to their rivals at Airbus are between a 6% and 13% cheaper to operate.
Well... so says Boeing. These figures vary from airline to airline, route to route, and do not really account for production availability and financing rates. If they did, then everyone in the world would have the 737....
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2104 times:
Not interested in an A vs B war here, but 737NG in comparison to their rivals at Airbus are between a 6% and 13% cheaper to operate.
No they're not. The average cost to operate of a 73G and 319 flips back and forth month to month.
AVITAS is the accepted standard for this information.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7177 posts, RR: 45 Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2034 times:
I guess the whole point of N1120a's comment was that the new regional jets of comparable capacity are more fuel efficient than the A318 or the 736 for that matter. In any case, I think MX's choice was driven by two factors, one being fleet commonality (which is itself a way of saving money) and the second one being the range of the A318 which will allow MX to be more flexible in seasonal routes and start new thin routes to other countries like Navega explained.
Ghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5128 posts, RR: 53 Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1934 times:
Ghost... Do tell us what you know about the "special" c/s!
Since Navega has disclose some information, then I'll tell the others what I told you the other day via your email.
Since past June, some people at Mexicana has been thinking that its time for the airline to get a new and fresh C/S!
Now, that they'll be receiving the new Airbus 318s, Mexicana wants to take advantage of this and introduce the new c/s.
In case the new c/s doesn't get approval it is rumored that the first A318 will get a special color scheme for being the first A318 in Latin America. Perhaps Airbus has something to do with this! And Airbus is trying to get new customers like Taca, Tam and Lan Chile... who knows!
Ricardo APM
Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7177 posts, RR: 45 Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1915 times:
JJ could be a good candidate for the A318 when they decide to get rid of the F100's, although they might want to replace them with A319's instead if the Brazilian market keeps on growing. In any case, it is really cool that MX will introduce the type in Latin America... I am sure Airbus is very happy and is putting together an interesting offer for MX to acquire widebodies.
Anybody know if MX is planning some sort of special "maiden" flight of the A318 with special introductory fares or a special anything?
Fly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1788 posts, RR: 23 Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1823 times:
Anybody know if MX is planning some sort of special "maiden" flight of the A318 with special introductory fares or a special anything?
Not wanting to sound like a promo, but now that we're talking about "special anythings" and fares, did you guys know that "Los Martes son de Aviacsa"?
I just saw a pin on a CSA at MTY the other day and was intrigued to know more about it....
RM
There are no stupid questions... just stupid people!
25 JoseMEX: >did you guys know that "Los Martes son de Aviacsa"?
26 SR117: Hmm this new CEO sure wants to get loose on the spending ! How long has MX had those standard colors?? 8 years or so?? I think it looks pretty good, b
27 Airliner777: I'm sorry to go off-topic, but is there any news about the A330s for MX available yet? Regards, Airliner777
28 Ghost77: JJ could be a good candidate for the A318 when they decide to get rid of the F100's, although they might want to replace them with A319's instead if t
29 HMOMX: "Los Martes son de Aviacsa"? What in the world!! Whats that all about? It's a special promo that Aviacsa started about two weeks ago. You can buy tick
30 Ghost77: HMOMX, Thank you very much for the links! Its very interesting to see all this new ideas Aviacsa is bringing to our aviation! Nice fares! Ricardo APM
31 NAVEGA: The A318's will make their first flight to Quito or to Charlotte or to Detroit. I pick Detroit first.
32 A320319318: probably LAX will be the first airport to receive the 318's. They always get the new aircraft.
33 Anthsaun: Is it really profitable for MX to fly an International route with such a small capacity airplane? How many pax does it take? A 100? 100 X $500.00 US =
34 JoseMEX: Anthony, >>100 X $500.00 US = $ 500,000
35 A320319318: Anthsaun; Many MX routes are seasonal, both domestic and international. It makes more sense to downsize the aircraft 320-319-318, rather than have les
36 Anthsaun: Thanks JoseMEX for the correcting. An extra 0 makes a huge difference. A320319318: MX has just a few seasonal routes. Most of MX's routes are regular
37 A320319318: Anthsaun; My appologies, I mean to say load factors are seasonal, of course most of MX routes are year round. tks
38 N405MX: Can someone confirm that the first F100 to leave is the XA-SHI (Tampico)? I heard that today (Sep18) it was leaving service to go to maintenance and t
39 Ghost77: Can someone confirm that the first F100 to leave is the XA-SHI (Tampico)? I heard that today (Sep18) it was leaving service to go to maintenance and t
40 N405MX: Yep, thanks for the info, today (19Sep) XA-SHI visited MTY on MX12/140, full flight. And to complete the info about MX1690/1691: MX1691/17SEP MEX/OUT
41 Jetmek319: To Update the status for ya'll... MSN 2328 is in the wing mate station today (Sep 20). MSN 2318 is F9's, not 2218. Jetmek319
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