Airblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 14 Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2979 times:
With the new winter timetable Volareweb will cut 32 routes compared with the summer timetable (about 50% of the network).
However they start 11 new routes, plus they improve the Italian domestic network and they open a new base in Bologna (BLQ)
They also end up code sharing agreement with WindJet, Air Polonia and HLX.
Here the cutting list (according to Volareweb timetable):
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18835 posts, RR: 54 Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2598 times:
I flew FCO-VCE on 13th Aug (my 22nd birthday). The flight was meant to depart at 1855 but was an hour or so late. It looked like well under 1/2 the aircraft was full, but I can't be exact.
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
Airblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 14 Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2543 times:
I would have expected to see BGY-TLL on the cut list too, but instead the frequencies are doubled. The loads must be real good then.
This route was planned to be only a summer route like many others (with late night flights), but it was so popular they decide to keep it and improve the frequencies, but they keep the not nice night schedule.
Airblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 14 Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2537 times:
I flew FCO-VCE on 13th Aug (my 22nd birthday). The flight was meant to depart at 1855 but was an hour or so late. It looked like well under 1/2 the aircraft was full, but I can't be exact
I'm not surprise a FCO-VCE flight (it's mainly a business route) was quite empty on the 13th Aug. What do you think about VA??
Connector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 922 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2496 times:
"Ryanair chief Michael O'Leary says he doesn't see enough market value in the east to support a significant Ryanair presence adding that he believes that East Europeans cannot afford to fly to expensive cities in the West, and contending that the region has little in the way of value for Western tourists"
Hey Mike, Bucharest and Timisoara are in Romania, Prague in Czech Republic, Warsaw in Poland, all of which are Eastern European countries ! ! !
At least Volareweb seem to have a totally different point of view...
Sn26567 From Belgium, joined Aug 2004, 127 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2439 times:
Not surprised to see VA cut routes which appeal essentially to summer holiday tourists. Look forward to see them come back next summer.
Also not surprised to see them increase frequencies on Italian domestic routes. Travellers get annoyed by bad service of AZ, and there will certainly be room for extension after the (announced?) demise of Alitalia due to the stubbornness of their unions.
Levent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2421 times:
Too bad, there goes my little trip to Venice... ;-(
Contrary to Mr Ryanair´s opinion, I think Eastern Europe is the next market to open up for both business and tourist travel. Trade with the new EU-countries will flourish, and they certainly have some very nice cities there!
GodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2751 posts, RR: 18 Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2355 times:
From all I heard about their flights to HHN and SXF I can very well understand that they will be cut. Actually I only got to hear bad news from those routes, which of course added to my doubts...
Airblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2309 times:
My thinking is they avoid to go to compete in middle-north Europe where the competition level is higher then in South Europe and due to AZ situation they are trying to be in a good position to enter heavy in the domestic market.
For sure if AZ goes under all the private Italian carriers (Volare, AirOne, Meridiana, Alpi Eagles and WindJet) are ready to take over all the AZ domestic routes (except some only feeder short routes to FCO and MXP)
AS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5820 posts, RR: 23 Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2208 times:
Pe@rson...don't think you are the only one. I spent a week with my friend in Venice last month. I hung with her and her friends, all Volare flight attendants. They don't even have a lot to say good about the airline. Specially not in on-time performance!
ASSFO
"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
L410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5394 posts, RR: 19 Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2199 times:
"Ryanair chief Michael O'Leary says he doesn't see enough market value in the east to support a significant Ryanair presence adding that he believes that East Europeans cannot afford to fly to expensive cities in the West, and contending that the region has little in the way of value for Western tourists"
Whatever O'Leary. I mean nobody's missing you here, anyway.
At least Volareweb seem to have a totally different point of view...
It's rather that almost everyone but Ryanair has totally different point of view. EasyJet, EUjet, Norwegian, V-bird, bmi Baby, Air Polonia, Smart Wings, Wizz Air, Germanwings, Air Berlin, HLX, Volareweb and I'm sure I've forgot some other airlines.
Russophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2164 times:
"Ryanair chief Michael O'Leary says he doesn't see enough market value in the east to support a significant Ryanair presence adding that he believes that East Europeans cannot afford to fly to expensive cities in the West, and contending that the region has little in the way of value for Western tourists"
Shouldn't that read something to the effect of "Ryanair cannot afford to fly to the cheap cities in the East, because the airports there basically tell him to sod off when he asked for a kickback so as to allow Ryanair to start services".
Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2882 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2111 times:
It is no surprise to see LTN-CAG service vanishing!
They launched services from LTN last year to Venice, Cagliari, Rimini and Catania and were promising future growth from the airport to other destinations in Italy and these never materialised. The dropped all the services last winter except for the CAG service.
Airblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2072 times:
Yes before choosing LTN they flew to LGW, but it was 2 years ago when they were still a traditional airlines and they flew mainly on code sharing with Alitalia.