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Volareweb To Cut 50% Of The Network  
User currently offlineAirblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 11
Posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4011 times:

With the new winter timetable Volareweb will cut 32 routes compared with the summer timetable (about 50% of the network).
However they start 11 new routes, plus they improve the Italian domestic network and they open a new base in Bologna (BLQ)
They also end up code sharing agreement with WindJet, Air Polonia and HLX.

Here the cutting list (according to Volareweb timetable):

- summer routes:

MXP-PMI
MXP-IBZ
VCE-ATH
VCE-VLC
VCE-IBZ
VCE-PMI
FCO-IBZ
BGY-OLB
VCE-OLB
LIN-LMP
BRI-BCN
CTA-BCN

- Domestic routes:

VCE-SUF
MXP-SUF
FCO-SUF
BRI-FCO
CTA-FCO (operated by WindJet on code sharing basis)
PMO-FCO (operated by WindJet on code sharing basis)

- European routes:

VCE-HHN
VCE-SXF
LIN-SXF
FCO-SXF
FCO-BIO
MXP-BIO
BRI-TIA
BRI-BRU
BRI-ORY
CTA-BRU
CAG-LTN
CAG-ORY
PMO-ORY
CTA-ORY

- Frequencies reduction:

VCE-FCO from 2 to 1 daily
BGY-FCO from 2 to 1 daily
FCO-ORY from 4 to 2 daily
LIN-CTA from 3 to 2 daily

The new routes including the new Bologna base where they base 2 A320:

MXP - Bucarest 1 Daily
BGY - Lamezia Terme 1 Daily
BLQ - Napoli 2 Daily
BLQ - Bari 1 Daily
BLQ - Cagliari 1 Daily
BLQ - Catania 1 Daily
BLQ - Palermo 1 Daily
BRI- Catania 1 Daily
BRI- Palermo 1 Daily
NAP - Catania 2 Daily
NAP - Palermo 1 Daily

Frequencies increasing:

LIN-NAP from 3 to 4 daily
BGY-CAG becomes daily
VCE-CAG becomes daily
BRI-VCE from 1 to 2 daily
MXP-PRG becomes daily
VCE-PRG becomes daily
VCE-Bucarest becomes daily
VCE-Timisoara becomes daily
VCE-WAW from 3 to 6 weekly
BGY-TLL from 2 to 4 weekly

For the winter season Volareweb will use 19 A320.





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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19203 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3630 times:

I flew FCO-VCE on 13th Aug (my 22nd birthday). The flight was meant to depart at 1855 but was an hour or so late. It looked like well under 1/2 the aircraft was full, but I can't be exact.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineOV735 From Estonia, joined Jan 2004, 909 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3617 times:

I would have expected to see BGY-TLL on the cut list too, but instead the frequencies are doubled.  Wow! The loads must be real good then.

User currently offlineAirblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3575 times:

I would have expected to see BGY-TLL on the cut list too, but instead the frequencies are doubled. The loads must be real good then.

This route was planned to be only a summer route like many others (with late night flights), but it was so popular they decide to keep it and improve the frequencies, but they keep the not nice night schedule.

Here the winter scheduled from 31 Oct.

BGY-TLL-BGY
21.40-01.25/01.55-03.40 1-3-5-7



User currently offlineAirblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3569 times:

I flew FCO-VCE on 13th Aug (my 22nd birthday). The flight was meant to depart at 1855 but was an hour or so late. It looked like well under 1/2 the aircraft was full, but I can't be exact

I'm not surprise a FCO-VCE flight (it's mainly a business route) was quite empty on the 13th Aug. What do you think about VA??



User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 932 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3528 times:

"Ryanair chief Michael O'Leary says he doesn't see enough market value in the east to support a significant Ryanair presence adding that he believes that East Europeans cannot afford to fly to expensive cities in the West, and contending that the region has little in the way of value for Western tourists"
 Laugh out loud Laugh out loud Laugh out loud

Hey Mike, Bucharest and Timisoara are in Romania, Prague in Czech Republic, Warsaw in Poland, all of which are Eastern European countries ! ! !

At least Volareweb seem to have a totally different point of view...





[Edited 2004-09-14 08:14:51]

User currently offlineSn26567 From Belgium, joined Aug 2004, 131 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3471 times:

Not surprised to see VA cut routes which appeal essentially to summer holiday tourists. Look forward to see them come back next summer.

Also not surprised to see them increase frequencies on Italian domestic routes. Travellers get annoyed by bad service of AZ, and there will certainly be room for extension after the (announced?) demise of Alitalia due to the stubbornness of their unions.



ex-Sabena #26567
User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3453 times:

Too bad, there goes my little trip to Venice... ;-(

Contrary to Mr Ryanair´s opinion, I think Eastern Europe is the next market to open up for both business and tourist travel. Trade with the new EU-countries will flourish, and they certainly have some very nice cities there!


User currently offlineGodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3387 times:

From all I heard about their flights to HHN and SXF I can very well understand that they will be cut. Actually I only got to hear bad news from those routes, which of course added to my doubts...

Max


User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

Are they likely to fly to LON from BLQ in the future, or is this more likley if the AZ situation gets worse?

User currently offlineAirblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3341 times:

My thinking is they avoid to go to compete in middle-north Europe where the competition level is higher then in South Europe and due to AZ situation they are trying to be in a good position to enter heavy in the domestic market.

For sure if AZ goes under all the private Italian carriers (Volare, AirOne, Meridiana, Alpi Eagles and WindJet) are ready to take over all the AZ domestic routes (except some only feeder short routes to FCO and MXP)


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6123 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3240 times:

Pe@rson...don't think you are the only one. I spent a week with my friend in Venice last month. I hung with her and her friends, all Volare flight attendants. They don't even have a lot to say good about the airline. Specially not in on-time performance!

ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently onlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5694 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

"Ryanair chief Michael O'Leary says he doesn't see enough market value in the east to support a significant Ryanair presence adding that he believes that East Europeans cannot afford to fly to expensive cities in the West, and contending that the region has little in the way of value for Western tourists"

Whatever O'Leary. I mean nobody's missing you here, anyway.

At least Volareweb seem to have a totally different point of view...

It's rather that almost everyone but Ryanair has totally different point of view. EasyJet, EUjet, Norwegian, V-bird, bmi Baby, Air Polonia, Smart Wings, Wizz Air, Germanwings, Air Berlin, HLX, Volareweb and I'm sure I've forgot some other airlines.



[Edited 2004-09-14 15:14:55]

User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3196 times:

"Ryanair chief Michael O'Leary says he doesn't see enough market value in the east to support a significant Ryanair presence adding that he believes that East Europeans cannot afford to fly to expensive cities in the West, and contending that the region has little in the way of value for Western tourists"

Shouldn't that read something to the effect of "Ryanair cannot afford to fly to the cheap cities in the East, because the airports there basically tell him to sod off when he asked for a kickback so as to allow Ryanair to start services".


User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3011 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

It is no surprise to see LTN-CAG service vanishing!

They launched services from LTN last year to Venice, Cagliari, Rimini and Catania and were promising future growth from the airport to other destinations in Italy and these never materialised. The dropped all the services last winter except for the CAG service.


User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3113 times:

I think that they had a go with LGW before choosing LTN.

User currently offlineAirblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3104 times:

Yes before choosing LTN they flew to LGW, but it was 2 years ago when they were still a traditional airlines and they flew mainly on code sharing with Alitalia.

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