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AF To Detroit This Spring  
User currently offlineOrd777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 258 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3301 times:

Looks like AF will start service to Detroit this spring. Just a guess, but I suspect that the equipment will be an A330 (because of size). Also, I would think they wouldn't run the flight daily at first, maybe 5 times a week. What do you all think?

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User currently offlineXJRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2461 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3256 times:

Whats your source on this?

XJR



Look ma' no hands!
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

where are you getting this info.....please let me know!!!

User currently offlineOrd777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3212 times:

Shoot, I knew I forgot to put something in this post. I wish I could, but I cannot reveal the source. But I can promise that this information is extremely reliable, but of course, nothing is for sure until it happens.

User currently offlineXJRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2461 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3191 times:

then I suggest this as a delete. (not that I truly care anyways about AF)

Try next time not to post something that may be false to us and then tell us that you cannot reveal the source. Then again i am not saying that you are lying...just dont put something that isnt worthwhile to this board unless you have cold hard facts to show us.


XJR



Look ma' no hands!
User currently offlineBartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 790 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3184 times:

no offense but how many times have we heard stuff like this? good luck to detroit for getting this service, though. it along with denver and seattle have been rumoured to be the next possibilities for AF. i like the simplistic AF livery, even if the plane is usually dirty as hell.

User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

Got me all excited, only to be let down again.

User currently offlineOrd777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

Sorry. I guess I should have been more clear in the original post. I guess this has to be classified as a rumor becuase it is not 100% official yet, at least according to the information that I have it extremely promising. But I can guarantee that the likelyhood of this happening is virtually a certainty. The most that I can reveal is that corporations in the Detroit area have been approached by AF for incentive contracts. AF has assured these companies that the flight is a go. But like I said,we wont know until it happens.

User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

ORD777 is probably right - but I'm pretty sure it will be a codeshare on the NW flight. With NW in Skyteam it would make perfect sense.




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User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2976 times:

There is no harm in saying "A contact in the US Air France division" as that certainly makes people believe you a little bit more than "I cannot reveal my source".

-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2937 times:

I've seen many people say "i cannot reveal the source" and people are still interested...dont be such assholes to him for just contributing to the forum...more power to you Ord777, DuPage County pride!

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7545 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

Wouldnt surprise me, seeing how NW is now a SkyTeam member!


"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4784 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2868 times:

If AF does start DTW services...then the ideal way to do so would be 4-5 weekly A 332s nonstop from CDG...lots of Arabs in Michigan state that would fly AF to North Africa and the Middle East where both KLM and itself have a sizeable network/presence.

How does NWA do on its DTW-CDG A 333 daily flights? do they fly MSP-CDG too?


User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 742 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

NW doesn't fly MSP-CDG, their only int'l routes from here (not counting Canada or Mexico) are LGW, AMS and NRT.


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User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1398 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 2797 times:

NW doesn't fly MSP-CDG, their only int'l routes from here (not counting Canada or Mexico) are LGW, AMS and NRT.

While admittedly both a NW and an MSP fan, which makes me obviously biased, I don't understand the logic of AF effectively going dog-eat-dog against NW in the DTW-CDG market when numerous connection opportunities at MSP go unserved.



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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2632 times:

All the rumors I have heard about airlines coming to Detroit over the years I am imune to them practically now.

Air France was rumored to come to Detroit the day the Midfield Terminal was opened. Alitalia was rumored prior to them joining Sky Team and when they were partners with Northwest back in the late 1990s. Alitalia hasnt been back to DTW since the late 1980s other than cargo

I have heard many rumors of Saudi Arabian and Emirates coming to Detroit but nothing happened.

Then there were the Aeromexico rumors with the twice daily flights this past summer and nothing happened.


User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2123 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

Hi everyone,

For what it's worth, the rumor is credible. I work within the company (hope I don't get in trouble for saying it!)

The rumor see-saws between Detroit and Seattle, but yes, nothing is official and there really is not a timeline given for when this could happen.




Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineNeilalp From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1034 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2426 times:

Any reason on why NW wouldn't just add another NW flight DTW-CDG. That route during the summer is almost always full. And if it isn't full there are 5-10 seats open.

I guess we will wait and see. Also it probably will either get an early or late landing slot since the 3pm-6pm customs gates tend to be packed with NW flights already.


User currently offlineKim777fan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

What would also be interesting too see is if either KE or NW add an ICN - DTW frequency or an MSP - ICN non-stop to link up these 2 Sky Team hubs for connections to/from Asia.

User currently offlineBartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 790 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

Yeah that (KE ICN-DTW) might be a possibility but I hear more often that KE is considering starting up ICN-CVG service to catch all of the DL feeder traffic there. Would make sense but could this route fill up a 772, which is what I'm guessing KE would have to put on this route. A 333 wouldn't make it, would it? Either way it's pretty close to ORD and not so far from ATL, which both have KE service.

User currently offlineNWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

I have meetings with the company tomorrow, so I will see about AF to DTW..in meetings last month, we were told that NO AF was NOT coming to DTW.


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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

There used to be a DTW-SEL flight back in the late 1990s and they would fill a 747-400. I wouldn't be surprised to see DTW-ICN happen either with a NW 744 or a Korean Air 744 or 772 depending on demand for the route.

User currently offlineEuroLeb From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1958 times:

This is great news for the huge Lebanese community in the state of Michigan, who'll enjoy minimal lay-over time at CDG on their way to BEY...


Calgary is my home...
User currently offlineElectraBob From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 931 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

I remember a thread on this forum many months ago....big rumour....Kenya Airways was going to start Detroit-Nairobi nonstops...boy, did that one die quickly.

If I were a betting man (which I am)....I would put a small wager on the following>>>>>>>

Air France to DTW....NO

Either Mexicana or AeroMexico to DTW....YES....probably DTW-GDL.

We'll see.



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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

I am surprised that there aren't more direct DTW to Mexico flights due to half of Daimler Chryslers products being built down there.

User currently offlineKim777fan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (10 years 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

GDL??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????  Nuts

Why wouldn't they do the obvious first and fly DTW - MEX?????????????????

As far as DTW - ICN or MSP - ICN, yes I did realize that KE does fly ICN - ORD, but unless ORD is providing some GREAT O & D traffic, wouldn't it make more sense to route traffic through MSP or DTW where NW can provide so many connecting opportunities. AFAIK, KE doesn't have any codeshare agreements in place with AA or UA out of ORD.

As far as ICN - CVG, with all due respect to the good folks in Erlanger, CVG is a fine terminal that has done GREAT things over the past several years, but I still feel MSP or DTW would make a superior connecting airport for passengers connecting to/from KE flights. BTW, Metro Detroit has a substantial Korean population in their own right.


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