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Belugas - How Many Are There? Where Do They Fly?  
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2168 posts, RR: 13
Posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 9635 times:

I guess they primarily fly between the factories at Hamburg EDHI and Toulouse. How often do they go? Where else? How many Belugas are there? Is Airbus Industries the only operator or are there other commercial users?

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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 9600 times:

IIRC there are 6.

Airbus Industrie (not "Industries) is the only operator but I'm sure if you want one they can build it for you.

Apart from the Airbus uses, they are chartered out for outsize cargoes. IIRC the Beluga (A300-600ST) has the largest circular cargo hold in the world or something like that.

The Belugas replaced the Super Guppies, which were, quite ironically, modified Boeings. One of the main advantages is that reattaching the nose of the Guppies took several hours.



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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 9592 times:

I think they´re 5 of them now and they flies between Toulouse - Finkenwerder - Filton - España (dont know where). Have I forgot any?

No other operator.

Micke/SE  Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 9590 times:

Every time I go and see my friend in Chester, in the UK, I see them landing nearby to collect wings from the BAe factory.

User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 9581 times:

Apart from the Airbus uses, they are chartered out for outsize cargoes. IIRC the Beluga (A300-600ST) has the largest circular cargo hold in the world or something like that.
Would the AN-224 be bigger in terms of circular cargo?

The Belugas also fly whenever there is a problem with an Airbus plane and a replacement is needed. There were rumors that a Beluga landed at LGA to assist a broken AC 320-family plane.

-Will



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User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5131 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9554 times:

I've seen them often at AMS as well. Must have been a cargo charter I asume.

KL911


User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9543 times:

They have industry in Chester? That is one of the richest places in the UK, and also one of the most restrictive councils


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9521 times:

Would the AN-224 be bigger in terms of circular cargo?

I don't think so. The An-225 and An-124 may have more spacious cargo holds, but IIRC the diameter of the holds is less. The width may be greater.

The Beluga is pretty specialized for airplane fuses, so you can see the need for accomodating circular cargo.

[Edited 2004-09-14 00:44:45]


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User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2168 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9517 times:

The Antonovs have a higher max load weight, but in terms of "space", the Beluga is bigger.

User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2168 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9508 times:

As a matter of fact, which are the "Airbus factories", i.e. the factories that produce parts that necessitate a visit by Belugas? I know of Hamburg, Toulouse, Getafe, Chester, Filton, also I believe Nantes - which others? Bremen?

User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9422 times:

Solnabo: "I think they´re 5 of them now and they flies between Toulouse - Finkenwerder - Filton - España (dont know where). Have I forgot any?"

As Mozart mentioned, in Spain the field used is Getafe near Madrid.
Sometimes the European Space Agency ESA uses them to carry satellites within Europe. I don´t know however whether they would be used to fly to the launch site in French Guyana...


User currently offlineFUAirliner From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 538 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9350 times:

Hi everybody,

there are five Belugas (A300-608ST is the official type):

F-GSTA c/n 655
F-GSTB c/n 751
F-GSTC c/n 765
F-GSTD c/n 776
F-GSTF c/n 796 operated in white c/s

These five Belugas operate from the following airports on a regular basis to collect the parts at the final assembly lines at Hamburg and Toulouse: Hamburg (XFW), Bremen, Toulouse, Getafe, Chester, Filton and Nantes.

They occasionally also operate ad-hoc charter flights to other airports if their special and unique service is required.


Frank



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User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1871 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9317 times:

the Belugas fly to Beauvais for the nose of the A380 (built in Meaulte)
Teva



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User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2168 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9260 times:

Bremen and Nates - are those the civil pax airports of BRE and NTE, or do the Belugas go to Lemwerder (XLW/EDWD) and St. Nazaire (SNR/LFRZ, where I believe there is an Airbus factory)?

User currently offlineOftwftwoab From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9244 times:

Airbus has a website for its Super Belugas that gives details of the 'external' flights they carry out (an eclectic mix!)

http://www.airbustransport.com/


User currently offlineEGNR From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 9168 times:

"They have industry in Chester? That is one of the richest places in the UK, and also one of the most restrictive councils"

Actually, the Airbus site at Broughton is just outside of Chester and is actually in North Wales. The airport that the site is built on is Hawarden Airport, but as Chester is the biggest town/city nearby and has more recognition, it is generally used to describe its location.




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User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 9104 times:

The Beluga flies to EDDW, the main pax airport. Comes here three times a week, usually over noon.

Flights to Nantes are St. Nazaire afaik.

Greetz
Lukas


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8975 times:

Interestingly, I found this on the A.net info page about the Beluga (http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=19):

A design study of a similarly configured A340, the A340ST Mega Transporter, to carry A3XX components is underway.

Anybody have more info on this?



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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8946 times:

Airbus has a website for its Super Belugas that gives details of the 'external' flights they carry out (an eclectic mix!)
http://www.airbustransport.com/


It would be interesting to see a price list, though Airbus may negotiate each deal individually rather than having a set rate schedule.



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