Mulder From New Zealand, joined Sep 2004, 61 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2349 times:
I understand Austrian group has done some re-branding. What's the current role of Lauda Air? I notice some Lauda Air routes are carrying Austrian's OS designator. Does it mean Lauda Air is all treated codeshare flights with OS without its own designator?
Leskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 71 Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2291 times:
Actually, all scheduled flights by the Austrian Airlines Group now carry the "OS" designator, the flights also carry - in CRSs - the connotation of being "operated by Lauda Air" or other airlines...
Lauda is what Austrian calls it's "Leisure division" - it was supposed to fly the routes where the emphasis is a bit less on business travelers... but seeing that, for example, PVG was started with NG planes - and I don't really see that as a leisure-only destination - that strategy seems to have been somewhat discontinued.
What Lauda does is operate quite a few charter flights to European warm water destinations (Spain, Turkey, ...) - not sure if they do that under the "OS" or "AAR" designators, or if they use NG for that...
TW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2223 times:
All flights of the OS Group (OS, NG, VO) are generally shown as "OS" no matter which of the airlines operate the flight.
Previous plans where to integrate the 777 into OS and to repaint the acft to OS livery. On the other hand the MD´s would have moved to NG in NG colours for charter services.
For the moment they have nothing noted so far regarding this movement or have announced something in this respect.
NG will be focussed on the leisure segement meaning charter flights and scheduled flights to leisure resorts (like PMI) - those are indicated with the 9000-series flight numbers.
In addition NG is serving the Far-East/Indian Ocean/Australian destinations from PVG south incl DXB, SYD, MEL to MRE. On these routes the 777 and 763 are used. Also the entire Caribbean destinations are served by NG - be it Cancun, Tobago, Cuba, DomRep or Montego Bay.
Cabincrews soon will have almost the same uniform.
Recently OS group finalised the agreement on the full integration of NG staff into OS in respect of their work contracts - meaning that salaries, working hours and conditions is now the same - NG staff gets higher salaries, OS staff gets slightly lower salaries (especially the pilots).
So sooner or later you will not see a big difference between OS and NG. NG will continue to operate under their own operators certificate.
VO: Altough now operating as "Austrian Arrows" the registered company name remains Tyrolean Airways with headoffice at Innsbruck. VO continues to operate as such and they also have different working contracts for their staff thus being a 100% daughter company.
For all that - it is for the moment quite complicated - for example the services out of BTS airport are 100% OS - but the aircraft/crew for these flights come from NG (737).
Aircraft orders are made by the OS Group - they have ordered another 737-800 so that 1 738 is delivered in April05 and 1 in Jul05 - the 734´s will go out of service in Oct04 and in Jul05, also the 733 is going out of service in winter 04/05 - meaning the 738 fleet will have 8 acft for the leisure flights. And it also means that NG remains with Boeing acft (the CRJ´s have been moved to VO).
MD-87ER From Austria, joined Aug 2001, 153 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2059 times:
Service to China was started years ago when OS and NG were still separated.
Initially everything by OS, probably because of traffic rights, VIE-PEK, but later also VIE-PEK-SHA and VIE-PEK and VIE-SHA nonstop.
Later on the flights to SHA were stopped, but VIE-PEK remained.
When they started flying to Shanghai again this spring, the only available aircraft in the OS-Group were NG's 767.
TW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2035 times:
Mozart: What happened to Rheintalflug? Part of Tyrolean now?
Yes, fully integrated in VO, flights ACH-VIE are now operated with DHC8-400 acft.
The former Rheintalflug ERJ-145 are now with Chautauqua Airlines (N975RP / N976RP), the 3rd one (OE-LSR/CN 145203) is unknown to me where it is now...
TW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1993 times:
the A340 is shown until Dec 20th - on this date the 763 "op by NG" is back on the VIE-SHA route.
I could think they will use the A340 from the VIE-YUL flights (OS0073) which is last served on 27OCT - during winter schedule YUL is offered on OS0071 to YYZ with connections on AC to YUL - for the period November till mid December to SHA.
was a little bit slow with typing - MD87er was quicker
TW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1936 times:
1 A340 OE-LAL (and the A330´s) has an interactive system for movies, music, games on PTV also in economy, the 3 other A340´s dont have that interactive system but the large screen plus monitors in eco. So this depends now which A340 is used.
@Bustaphil - question - is OE-LAK also with PTV´s in eco? I thought it is only the Alpha Lima A340!
sorry Mulder that I cant be more specific. but the seating pitch is larger with the A340 over the 763 eco - not much - about 1 inch.