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Alaska And Horizon To Partner With Delta Air Lines  
User currently offlineJakob77 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 210 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5977 times:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040916/sfth044_1.html

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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13763 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5952 times:
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Here are the details:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE September 16, 2004

ALASKA AND HORIZON TO PARTNER WITH DELTA AIR LINES

SEATTLE – Alaska Airlines, Horizon Air and Delta Air Lines announced today a comprehensive marketing agreement to provide customers with a wider array of destinations and benefits. The agreement provides for the carriers to codeshare on each other’s flights, giving customers more travel options and the partner airlines incremental passenger traffic.

In addition to codesharing, the three carriers plan to provide reciprocal frequent flyer benefits. This will allow customers to accrue and redeem awards in either of the airlines’ frequent flyer programs, regardless of which program they belong to or on which airline they fly. The agreement also provides for additional airline lounge privileges in selected cities. For Alaska’s Board Room lounge members, access will be available at Delta Crown Room locations in Atlanta, Cincinnati and Salt Lake City. For Delta members, access will be available to Alaska’s Board Room facilities in Anchorage, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles and Vancouver, B.C. Additionally, while the airlines will continue to schedule their respective flights independently, each will evaluate their schedules to optimize connections between one another in order to provide customers with more convenient travel options.

The codesharing and frequent flier components of the new agreement are subject to review by the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT). In addition, codesharing by Delta on Alaska flights will require negotiated changes to the scope clause of the Delta pilot contract. The carriers will work with the DOT in an effort to have the review completed as soon as possible, and Delta will work to conclude its pilot approvals and negotiations as soon as possible as well. If approvals are received in a timely manner, the airlines could begin implementing the agreements late this fall and early next year.

“This significantly extends the value of our travel network for every Alaska and Horizon customer,” said Gregg Saretsky, executive vice president of marketing and planning. “With the addition of Delta Air Lines to our team of codeshare partners, our customers will now have access to a worldwide network of destinations that is second to none.”

Under terms of the codeshare, Alaska will place its code on several hundred flights operated by Delta while Delta’s code will be placed on a like number of Alaska and Horizon flights.

“This new marketing agreement will allow Delta to partner with Alaska and Horizon to offer our passengers greater access to destinations throughout the United States, Canada and Mexico,“ said Delta’s senior vice president and chief marketing officer Paul Matsen. “When we have completed the DOT review process and fully implement the agreement, it will not only complement Delta’s existing service, but also offers Alaska and Horizon passengers access to Delta’s global system. Delta’s network will be expanded by 42 new cities. This is a win-win-win situation for customers and the carriers.”




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User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1909 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5939 times:

So should we also wait for a release on AS' new flights SEA-ATL?




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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13763 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5919 times:
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So should we also wait for a release on AS' new flights SEA-ATL?


We were literally about to sign the paperwork on that before announcing SEA-MCO service, but Corporate decided to hold off on ATL for awhile. This DL deal has been in the works for the past six months (that I know of, anyway) - but AS has a tendency to announce service to a codeshare partner's hubsite several months after analyzing the bookings to/from those cities when booked solely as codeshare flights.

I wouldn't look for SEA-ATL service from AS for at least six to eight months, but that's just a guess based on past history.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5847 times:

This is something that should've happened about a decade ago  Angry

User currently offlineFjnovak1 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 612 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5804 times:

So now basically American Airlines is the only non-SkyTeam carrier Alaska is partnered with domestically...am i correct?

IMO, they should drop the AA affilation and join up with SkyTeam--connecting their network to the entire world with the other SkyTeam carriers...



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User currently offlineNealcg From United States of America, joined May 2004, 141 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5750 times:

Drop AA?

I think they are hitching up to the wrong horse. If this means AS flying to DFW thats another matter...



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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2469 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5690 times:


IMO, they should drop the AA affilation and join up with SkyTeam--connecting their network to the entire world with the other SkyTeam carriers...


C'mon. Why is it that people insist on associating AS with the "What's Leftover Alliance".

AS is partnered with virtually all of OW. Why would they want to give that up?
Do you think MVP members will be happy to give up CX,BA,AA,LA,QF for SkyTeam? I know I'd be pissed if suddenly my miles could only get me to Asia on NW or Korean instead of CX.



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User currently offlineCumulonimbus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5663 times:


I wonder if Horizon is going to Buy more Q-400's to operate out of SLC?


User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5630 times:

My prediction is that DL will leave be leaving ANC... and will further reduce it's SEA operations.... maybe even it's LAX, PDX, SFO, YVR operations may take a hit...

"Atlanta-based Delta on Thursday said the carriers agreed to share flight codes and to start offering lounge and frequent-flyer benefits for each other's customers."

"The carriers also plan to discuss other areas of cooperation, such as air logistics and expanded cooperation with facilities and passenger handling programs"

Look at what the Crown Room/Board Room mix is

AS customers will be allowed access to DL Crown Rooms in ATL, CVG, SLC

DL customers will be allowed access to AS Board Rooms in ANC, SEA, PDX, SFO, LAX and YVR...

So looks like DL will be feeding AS via its hubs to SEA, PDX and want AS to use its hubs in SEA and PDX to feed traffic to DL's hubs...



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User currently offlineGeg2rap From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 853 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5609 times:

Imagine being a AS flight attendent....today's 30 min flight from GEG-SEA is operated in partnership with NW KLM Delta American Continental Quantas Horizon
British Airways thanks for flying  Smile


Now if just UA would come back around to horizon (haha)
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I don't know if SLC will get a big boost out of this as previously mentioned...something DL CO NW should think about is their partnership with AE out of LAX maybe have a horizon service there to the smaller CA communities...something to think about instread of throwing money AA's way


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 5554 times:

Boy Lono, you hit it right on the head, this will enable Delta to pull out of ANC during the winter months at the vary least and enable Alaska to further gouge the Alaskan traveler.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13763 posts, RR: 61
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5476 times:
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this will enable Delta to pull out of ANC during the winter months at the vary least and enable Alaska to further gouge the Alaskan traveler

How is AS gouging the customers when airlines are dropping ANC? Obviously there's not as much money to be made there as people think, or EVERYONE would be flying there.



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User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5466 times:

L-188

I think ANC is just the tip of the iceberg (pardon the pun!).. I think DL will try and re-trench at their hubs and hope to get enough feed from their code share partners.... I see DL further pulling back on the west coast..

This is getting interesting!

[Edited 2004-09-17 02:06:22]


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User currently offlineN317AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5433 times:

EA CO AS,

Do you forsee AS flying into ATL and then hooking a DL flight into MIA or MCO instead of flying AS directly to those destinations? I'm hoping AS keeps flying direct to thos cities.

Bill


User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5429 times:

N317AS
AS/QX may start feeding DL's hub in SLC from SEA, PDX, SFO, LAX, YVR.... I don't think AS will fly to ATL....






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User currently offlineRydawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5409 times:

"The carriers also plan to discuss other areas of cooperation, such as air logistics and expanded cooperation with facilities and passenger handling programs"

I think one example of this would be in the major changes announced on September 9. All of the remaining fleet service for AS will be handled by Atlanta based Delta Global Services (DGS). These changes will take effect starting in November in JNU, FAI, SEA, and ANC.

Just a coincidence?

Delta could pull out of Anchorage in the winter months, I am sure AS would welcome the traffic in the off season. However keep in mind Delta ground handles several carriers into Anchorage. Sun Country, Frontier, Condor, and America West. Now I know America West is the only year-round carrier that they ground handle, but that contract would need to be taken care of before a Delta joins the list of snowbird carriers in Anchorage.
-R

[Edited 2004-09-17 02:45:47]


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User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5382 times:

DGS sub contracts to DL... it is not a DL owned company...

It was one of those employee morale busting companies that DL started using back in 1994-95... so it didn't have to pay for their own employees... it is a sad story

DGS may continue after DL pulls out of ANC... but it will be renamed something else.... "DL" does not ground handle anyone in ANC.... DGS does

[Edited 2004-09-17 03:16:06]


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13763 posts, RR: 61
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5360 times:
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EA CO AS,

Do you forsee AS flying into ATL and then hooking a DL flight into MIA or MCO instead of flying AS directly to those destinations? I'm hoping AS keeps flying direct to thos cities.

Bill


It's difficult to predict what will happen, but AS has adopted a stance of "we reserve the right to fly from our hub in SEA to anywhere we want, regardless of whom we partner with," so ATL is definitely a possibility down the line, especially since it was once thisclose to being opened.

AS will probably NEVER cease MIA and MCO flying - the loads and yields are just too good to pass up, and besides - why give the money to a partner when you can keep it all yourself?  Big grin



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User currently offlineN317as From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5321 times:

Thank goodness. When I fly to HSV I have to fly through DFW or ATL. But I don't want to fly through either as often as I go to MIA.

User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5233 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5221 times:

Looks like AS is what British Midland used to before it joined STAR, the biggest "whore" in the airline world. Good for them! THAT's what a niche carrier SHOULD be.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5197 times:

OzarkD9S,

Would you believe that in the past I too have described them as a "Codeshare Whore"



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13763 posts, RR: 61
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5178 times:
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Alaska - The Last Great Promiscuous Airline  Big thumbs up


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5147 times:

And somebody was wondering why Chester had that big grin on his face  Laugh out loud


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5110 times:

Would you believe that in the past I too have described them as a "Codeshare Whore"

Thats EXACTLY what they are...they'll never join any alliance. And I stress the word 'never'. They are very into codesharing, thats the whole point to AS. Its.....ALASKA!!



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25 DeltaMIA : DGS sub contracts to DL... it is not a DL owned company... Sorry DGS is a subsidiary of Delta Air Lines. My prediction is that DL will leave be leavin
26 Lono : DeltaMIA Thanks for the update on DGS.... I can admit when I am wrong!... I have a question however..was DGS at one time a sub contractor..??? I was t
27 Post contains links DeltaMIA : was DGS at one time a sub contractor Its start date was before my time at Delta, but I believe you are right about the time frame being around 1994-19
28 Ord : "My prediction is that DL will leave be leaving ANC... and will further reduce it's SEA operations..." I don't see Delta making any reductions at SEA.
29 Lono : DeltaMIA Again thank you for your insight... DL does some strange things... for example DL installed a jet bridge in JNU 3 months before they announce
30 DeltaMIA : what are your thoughts of DL codesharing with AS after all these years..??? Who do you think will benefit the most?? I think codesharing is great. It
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