Flyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1864 posts, RR: 3 Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3752 times:
Hey all...I was just thinking about how not to long ago Air Wisconsin (Operating as United Express) Flew BAe146s into EUG, and then thought, when the Republic EMB 170s come on line, if any will be based out of DEN...I highly doubt it as It seems that denver's current 70 seat op is ran out by YV, and OO, soon to be all OO... Any one want to elaborate some more?? What about 146s? Aren't there still some in DEN???? We need them back in EUG! Im getting sick of all the CLs!
MEL From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1092 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3692 times:
I think Chicago-Indianapolis, Indianapolis-Washington and Washington-Houston were among the first routes to receive the ERJ-170 but for some reason, they have recently disappeared from skeds and replaced primarily with ERJ-145s.
ORDZW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 198 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3548 times:
I was curious about this also. I looked today, and I saw 2 ERJ-170s between ORD and IND beginning on October 31, and IAD to IND, also beginning October 31. I think there were 3 flights daily, mixed in with Chautauqua's ERJ-145s. I tried to book them and was able to. The seat maps were even available. We had the 170s in the system a while ago on this same route, but they were taken out a few days later. Now they are back again, flight numbers and all! I'm not sure if they have got their certification yet, we will have to see if they stay in the system this time...
Flyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1864 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3345 times:
so another question here guys...with the RP 170 arrivals to the United Express system, what will the effects on the system be as far as aircraft. UX has been changing so much lately its often hard to keep up!! Is ZW going to begin more DEN flying once again? Or are they gonna keep flying primarily IAD and ORD?
ORDZW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 198 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3154 times:
As has been discussed before, the 146 is currently the largest aircraft that is able to fly into ASE. As long as this remains to be true, ZW should be around in DEN for a while.
Currently, ZW has no plans to acquire any new types of aircraft. I would love to see us fly the 170, or even a CR7, but this is not happening at this point. It would have been interesting to see if ZW would have purchased any Avro RJs if they had continued production. I heard somewhere that this would have been a strong possibility.
The ZW fleet is currently 70 CRJ-200s and 17 Bae-146s.
On a side note, 15 of our 146s are scheduled for heavy checks in the upcoming months, so we might yet see the new colors on a 146...
Flyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1864 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3045 times:
Sorry folks I confused you with that statement "Soon to be all OO" I was refering to Denver 70 seat operations. (Should I say 66 seat operations? As I know OO is going to be doing that with thier 700s soon? lol)
146crew From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 211 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2869 times:
To sort a few things out...
Republic can not get it's certificate soon enough because the first time they applied for the cert it was not apporved because the FAA did not approve of their training programs. United to Chautauqua that if the -170s are not on line by a certain date in OCT (don't recall the exact date) they can basically forget the the Republic contract as well as the -170s. So Chautauqua will place them on their certificate and fly them using IND crews initially with hopes of having Republic up and running by 1st Q 2005. There are no plans to fly out of DEN. United's main focus in DEN in Skywest. This may cause problems with their AA and DL contracts because of pilot scope clauses but that's a topic for another discussion.
Air Wisconsin continues to fly out of DEN to ASE, ICT, DSM, COS, MKE, MSN in October with the BAe 146 and still has a crew base in Denver although a smaller one than it was 1 year ago. There are also Some CRJ-200 flights to MSN, COS, LNK, MCI, FSD in October. There has not been a 146 departure for Eugene for atleast a year. Currently AWAC ground handles all ZW and all YV Jet flights.
ORDZW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 198 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2769 times:
Now you mention it, 146crew, when I attempted to book the flight yesterday, it did say "Operated by United Express/Chautauqua." I didn't think much of it at the time, since they are both under the same umbrella, but this would support what you were saying about Chautauqua placing the 170s on their certificate.
I am glad United is pushing for the 170s to get on line, I am looking forward to seeing them in ORD!
146crew From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 211 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2610 times:
I am looking forward to the 170 as well! Chautauqua is a good airline and I know they will do a nice job. I just hope if United asks us to replace the 146 or get 70 seaters we will get the 170. The 170 seems so much more comfortable than the CRJ.
Flyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1864 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2466 times:
I don't think its fesiable for them to opertate them from ORD to EUG, however, At one time I know UA was considering it, EUG also had a great interest in increasing Eastern bound flights. So maybe, that could be possible...but my own knowledge of the topic tells me "No Way Jose"