Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5285 posts, RR: 35 Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9917 times:
A while back we were flying Ryanair to Venice and, as we had brought a bottle of gin on board with some plastic glasses nicked from the departures bar, we poured a drink for the flight. A flight attendant noticed this and told us we were not allowed to drink our own alcohol on board. We put the bottle away, though thinking about it afterwards, did she have the authority to tell us to do so? If we had ignored her, what could she have done? As far as I know we weren't breaking any law.
Cha747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 763 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9885 times:
Yes....there are rules about this...they control the booze for 2 reasons...first, they can cut you off..second, they can rip you off. It would be like bringing a bottle of gin into your local bar, opening it up, and drinking your own booze.
Seriously, the only airline that I know invited passengers to bring their own alcohol on board was Kuwait Airways...about 20 years ago (don't know current policy) because they did not serve it.
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Captain.md-11 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 703 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9879 times:
The airline I work for certainly do not allow consumption of spirits etc by pax from their own bottles. When we serve drinks we can monitor the amount of alcohol one passenger consumes, if they supply their own drinks we can not. Simply it is company procedure and if it is not followed, then the decision will go to the Captain.
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Sabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9877 times:
You are not allowed to drink you own alcohol during the flight and it makes sense, the F/A's will know how much you are drinking during the flight and they will make sure that you are still able to have yourself under control, this is very important if there is an emergency situation). The F/A's won't get an image on your alcohol consume if you are drinking your own beer/booze aditionally to that stuff what is served inflight.
Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5285 posts, RR: 35 Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9853 times:
Hmmmmmmmmm. Interesting, and it makes sense, thought I reckon it's more for commercial reasons than worrying about passengers being drunk (after all, you can get as tanked-up as you like in the airport lounge). What would have happened had we refused?
Trickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9825 times:
Do you see FoxSports advertising their shows on ESPN?
I think it's a simple matter of common courtesy. Just like Cha747 said, it would be akin to bringing a bottle of gin into the neighborhood bar and drinking it there. Unless the airline specifically mentions so, I don't think it's appropriate to drink any other alcoholic beverages other than what the airline offers.
Although I'd like to see someone try that on a Royal Jordanian flight where no alcohol is allowed.
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Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5285 posts, RR: 35 Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9789 times:
I can't see how it is discourteous: certainly in a restaurant where you go to eat and drink it would be, and of course in a bar as well, but on a flight, I disagree. The airline sells me a ticket to get from A to B and drinking alcohol is not the reason I fly. Apart from the low-cost carriers, they usually give out free booze. So if I bring drink my own on board I'm saving them money.
ChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1605 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9705 times:
It is FAR 121.575.
Many people act differently at altitude than they do on the ground after alcohol consumption. If people were allowed to BYOB and a group of 20 or so going to Vegas was allowed to get smashed, there could be a bit of a problem. It is purely common sense not to allow people to BYOB on the airplane, but, since some passengers do not use common sense or do not know the possible effects of alcohol at altitude or their own limits, the FAA stepped in and made it an FAR.
And for the comment on denying boarding because "they think" you are too drunken: it is better to deny boarding than have to deal with someone who is already acting in a way that got the flight crew's attention than to have to deal with it at 30,000 feet. Worst case scenario is a fight, diversion, FAA involvement, etc. Surely some of your drunken friends have shown you what can happen at a bar, imagine that on the airplane.
ChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1605 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9690 times:
§121.575 Alcoholic beverages.
(a) No person may drink any alcoholic beverage aboard an aircraft unless the certificate holder operating the aircraft has served that beverage to him.
(b) No certificate holder may serve any alcoholic beverage to any person aboard any of its aircraft who --
(1) Appears to be intoxicated;
(2) Is escorting a person or being escorted in accordance with 49 CFR 1544.221; or
(3) Has a deadly or dangerous weapon accessible to him while aboard the aircraft in accordance with 49 CFR 1544.219, 1544.221, or 1544.223.
(c) No certificate holder may allow any person to board any of its aircraft if that person appears to be intoxicated.
(d) Each certificate holder shall, within five days after the incident, report to the Administrator the refusal of any person to comply with paragraph (a) of this section, or of any disturbance caused by a person who appears to be intoxicated aboard any of its aircraft.
[Doc. No. 6258, 29 FR 19219, Dec. 31, 1964, as amended by Amdt. 121-118, 40 FR 17552, Apr. 21, 1975; Amdt. 121-178, 47 FR 13316, Mar. 29, 1982; Amdt. 121-275, 67 FR 31932, May 10, 2002]
Aa777mia From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9652 times:
It depends on the carrier.. Some US Airlines will allow you to consume your own alcohol, however, the bottle has to be given to the crew, and kept in the galley. Basically the crew has to serve you out of the bottle, so they can monitor your consumption. I guess certain countries and airlines have different policies...
NW7E7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 532 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9643 times:
On this past Airline, a Mexican guy was going to carry on 3 bottles of tequila but one of the employees confiscated one of the bottles and put it down the drain because it had no labels or anything on it. The other two bottles were labeled so he was able to take it on the plane but he was not allowed to drink it while on the plane.
Hardkor From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 236 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9617 times:
I was on a flight in June on AC, from YVR-LHR. I had bought a bottle of rye whisky at the duty free. It wasn't wrapped or anything so my friend and I started drinking it on the plane. The flight attendant saw this and freaked out, threatening that we could be arrested. I apologized, told her that we had no idea and no intention of causing problems, and she took the bottle away. Then, near the end of the flight the head purser came up to us and told us that they had discussed the situation with the pilots and had concluded that we would not be arrested upon arrival, as we had not been bothering anybody else. The moral of the story is, airlines take drinking very seriously, and will not hesitate to do what they feel is necessary to ensure the safety of the passengers and crew. Oh yeah, and that a 10 hour return flight to YVR is much more boring when completely sober!
Hmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2088 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9588 times:
Sounds like AC alright. What a joke. Threatening to arrest you for drinking from your own bottle. Some airlines would let you keep it and smile. Others will turn a blind eye. Some would threaten to take it away, a few would actually take it away. Then there is Air Canada. They threaten to have you arrested for just taking a nip. The moral of the story? Air Canada flight attendants have a rep for usual levels of hostility in what is a hospitality business. Which is odd because Canadians have a world reputation for the exact opposite by nature. I defend Air Canada for technical excellence, cleanliness, and safety. But their FAs are from Mars, not Canada.
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Iairallie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9587 times:
You cannot serve yourself your own alcohol onboard any US a/c. You cannot board any US a/c when intoxicated as anyone who has watched the US version of Airline is well aware. BTW we can refuse to serve you your own alcohol and hold it for you in the galley if we feel you are intoxicated. The reason why these laws exist is clear we have to consider the safety and comfort of the other passengers. If you had been on a US carrier and you had refused to stop drinking you would have been subject to arrest for violating not one but to FAR's. Interfereing with the duties of a crew member and consumeing your own alcohol. It really is not something we can afford to take lightly. Concealing your consumption only makes things worse if you are caught. Just ask your flight attendant to serve you. At most US airlines we are allowed to serve you however policies may vary.
Skydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 860 posts, RR: 11 Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 9511 times:
Air Canada flight attendants have a rep for usual levels of hostility in what is a hospitality business. Which is odd because Canadians have a world reputation for the exact opposite by nature. I defend Air Canada for technical excellence, cleanliness, and safety. But their FAs are from Mars, not Canada
Actually, most of them are from Quebec. I won't say anything more.
BTW - 20oz plastic bottles of 7-UP, Coke and Dr. Pepper are great mixers, but I've never done anything like this on a flight...
ORDflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 511 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 9498 times:
Seems like the main reasons are
1. safety- not everybody realizes that altitude increases the effects of alcohol, and this way they crew can watch how much passengers drink
2. economics- don't forget the airline is trying to sell you their drinks for $5 a pop (just taking a random figure here, I know it varies between airlines)
3. legal reasons- there are many laws regarding alcohol consumption, especially here in the US. The airline's liquor license may only be valid if they are the ones doing the serving.
The situation isn't limited to airlines, think about other places like sports stadiums. For the most part you can't bring in alcohol. Same thing at bars and restaurants...most would probably throw you out if you started drinking out of your personal stash, except for those that are byob.
Qantas077 From China, joined Jan 2004, 5745 posts, RR: 49 Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 9484 times:
the one and only reason why you can't consume alcohol onboard is because an aircraft is a licensed premis, you can't walk into a pub and start drinking your own booze, same rule applies onboard airplanes, you can certainly carry it with you, your not allowed to consume it though.
reason, due to the responsible serving of alcohol law, the alcohol must be served by a certified person, like a flight attendant or bar person.
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25 Iairallie: "the one and only reason why you can't consume alcohol onboard is because an aircraft is a licensed premis, you can't walk into a pub and start drinki
26 Type-rated: Back in the early 90's when AA had a HOU-BNA flight I was on there was this trashy looking couple approaching the gate before departure (guy: belly ex
27 Foxiboy: In the uk it is an offence under the AIR NAVIGATION ORDER to consume alcohol not supplied by the cabin crew, as the crew have to monitor how much alco
28 Flyboy1980: When I was a flight attendant for Air NZ, I struck this situation a couple of times. The law here is the same, pax cannot consume alcohol they have br
29 Braybuddy: Moral of the story is to disguise it if you want to drink on board! Does anyone remember back in the 70s the duty-free shops used to stick a tape that
30 Saigonhouston: I have always brought mini travel size (Bee Feather gin and Grey Goose vodka) with me. Just be discrete and enjoy. Noone ever notice when I'm pouring
31 Deltabobo: On a DL flight from ATL to GSP last Wednesday, a couple in F Class brought a fancy bottle of wine onboard. They asked the F/A if they can drink it, bu
32 Fixplanes2: The renewed interest in brining one's own booze on board is increasing due never-ending price increase by airlines......now $5.00 US for a dented, war
33 VoodooChild: The Aussies out there can probably appreciate this story...............Back in the early 90's/late 80's on a trip back from the UK after the Ashes cri
34 Jerry1011: A few "dry" (Islamic) airlines will allow you to bring your own AND DRINK IT on board. I'm specifically thinking of Royal Brunei (BI), who don't sell
35 UA744KSFO: "the one and only reason why you can't consume alcohol onboard is because an aircraft is a licensed premis, you can't walk into a pub and start drinki
36 Qantas077: thanks UA744KSFO. as i said it's the main reason, all planes are like a nightclub, licensed to serve alcohol in a responsible manner, that means you d
37 Hmmmm...: license does NOT permit minors to consume alcohol within the premises. if you break that law and are caught then your subject to some pretty stiff pen
38 Braybuddy: In 32 years of flying (as a passenger) I've only seen people who were really smashed a couple of times, and the cabin crew dealt with them easily. I f
39 Qantas077: hmmm. i think you know what i was trying to say, they can't be served is what i was getting at.
40 Sian: I'm a terribly fearful flier, and the odd brandy or glass of champagne really does help to quell the fear. However, this becomes a problem when one ha
41 Staggerwing: In the United States, you used to have to worry about the individual state laws in regards to serving a drink on the ground. The federal government sa
42 BR715-A1-30: YO! Necessito Un Vaso Con Hielo... AH HA HA HA HA HA for those who don't understand, read Elliott Hester's book, PLANE INSANITY!
43 Iairallie: UA744KSFO- They made it sound like it is more profit motivated. The pub example is based more on profit than safety. You can call the cops on the grou
44 CitationJet: The Kansas Attorney General was Vern Miller, who was AG from 1971 to 1975. http://www.ljworld.com/section/statepolitics/story/99381 http://www.kansasc
45 AirframeAS: Not true. The law only says that minors can't be served. It doesn't say they can not consume the alcohol. Maybe in Canada, but here in the U.S. we hav
46 Hmmmm...: It is against the law to be caught with open alcohol in Canada, too. It is also against the law to be drunk in public, regardless of age. That is not
47 AirframeAS: The issue is whether airlines allow minors to consume alcohol onboard if it is supplied via a parent. The answer is yes. Actually, the F.A.A. does not
48 Kilavoud: In 2003 begin of February when flying ZRH-SIN on SQ in couch, some likely Swiss French lads, during the two first hours of the flight, where joking, h
49 GMUAirbusA320: I know a few flight attendants that say they don't mind serving it TO YOU. You must ask a nice one to take it for you, so that if you have too much, t