Jeffie813 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2695 times:
while i am glad that someone has finally applied for the spot that airtran forfeited, i'm disappointed that it's sprirt. it basically means that PBI has slim chances of getting the DCA route. as it is, spirit only serves PBI seasonally, and we could definitely support a year round flight to DCA. it would be nice to see some competition to US.
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6729 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2685 times:
I have a question, it may be stupid but if so.. it happens..
If an airline is going to start a new service.. say ATL-EWN.. does it have to be approved by DOT/FAA? Will it have a docket also? Or does that only count for international and slot-restricted airports?
FlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6484 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2666 times:
It's not a stupid question. Airlines only have to apply to the DOT for international and slot-restricted airports (assuming the slot restrictions are federal and not local). T
There is one other area where airlines do apply to the gov't which is for Essential Air Service markets (EAS). If an airline wants to receive an EAS subsidy to serve a small market, they have to apply through the DOT as well. Of course, if they don't want a subsidy, they are free to start service w/o gov't permission.
In your example of ATL-EWN, DL could start this service whenever they like without applying to the DOT.
John From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2664 times:
Jeffie813: The fares are very reasonable to DCA on US now, since PBI is now a GoFare market...DCA goes to 3 NON-stops in November (currently, 2). I wonder why AirTran dumped the PBI-DCA route? I guess they're focusing their attention primarily on BWI?
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2469 times:
Spirit Airlines and Delta Connection carrier ASA have applied for the DCA slot that has been forfieted by airTran recently.
NW also applied for the slot exemptions, again for DCA-DSM.
It's a bit ironic in that these were initially Spirit's slots, which it forfeited by not using them. Then AirTran got them, and forfeited them by not using them. Now Spirit wants them again. (All the while, of course, NK/FL can't stop complaining about how they don't have any slots.) The really sad part is that Spirit is probably going to get them, just like they got the last ones. Two markets don't have nonstop DCA service, but NK gets the slots to serve markets that not only already have nonstop DCA service, but already have nonstop lowfare DCA service.
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.