777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12950 posts, RR: 15 Posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8888 times:
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After nearly 15 years of being grounded because of wars and sanctions Iraqi Airways is starting International flights again. The airline is launching scheduled flights to Syria and Jordan twice a week. Iraqi Airways hopes to expand to Dubai within the next few weeks. In August the airline successfully completed a trial flight from Jordan. The once 16 strong fleet now has only 1 aircraft that is airworthy, the others which were flowen out of the country were left to rust. Repair teams are being sent to repair the 15 other planes. http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/business/2004/September/business_September360.xml§ion=business&col=
QIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8548 times:
This is really good nows for Iraq. But I have the little same feeling as PlaneviewNYC. If they could do it after the Israeli flight in Kenya, why shouldn't it be possible at Iraq Airways? And I hope to God that it won't happen.
Yes of course. That is hopefully just in the starting phase. And I'm sure most people don't mind paying that.
And most likely the only ones to fly into Iraq in the beginning are contractors with money in their pocket.
UAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8506 times:
I was going to say that they should start a USA flight because most of the contractors are coming from here and then they could also visit their families more often but I guess that wouldn't be the safest thing. I really don't see how it is safe to land there at all.....? If its safe enough for a plane to land at all do you think that a flight to the US would work? I would think that at this point they could fill it up with family of contractors going out there and then contractors coming back to visit. I know now they don't even have that option. You have to stay there until the job is done because obviously there is not flight to get on!!
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 5346 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8472 times:
Iraqi Airways says its offices have already sold dozens of tickets, but at prices the majority cannot afford. A return ticket to Damascus would cost $600, and a return to Amman $750. The same trip by road costs about $40.
Can you please find me many gullible people wanting to dish out US $ 600-750 for a 1.5-3 hr flight to AMM and DAM from BAGHDAD...a KHI-LHR-KHI return eco tkt for a 8 hr journey one way costs US $ 700 whereas AUH/DXB-LHR-DXB/AUH costs US $ 500-550 return!!!
These prices of Iraqi Airways are utterly ridiculous!!!
777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12950 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8430 times:
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Iraqi Airways fleet are B727s, B732s and B747SPs. Not sure which model aircraft Iraqi Airways are flying on their new flights. As you can see, their fleet are 'old fashined' and are gas guzzlers. Once new routes are announced then fares will drop.
QR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8213 times:
They have 727s and 707s lying around at 707 just rusting, last time I saw them in augest the engines were being used as homes for pigeons. The aircraft are better than others that were destroyed at Baghdad though, and I think they can be airworthy (the 727) after some maintance. As for the 707, I doubt they would use that aircraft.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12341 posts, RR: 45
Reply 20, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4982 times:
I believe you are talking about the fleet that was left to the elements for YEARS and not air worthy, so please tell the whole story, these were not factory fresh planes we are talking about. I am not excusing what happened by any means.
JoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4954 times:
Th german magazin DER SPIEGEL has a story about Iraqi starting international flights again.
And it mentions that so far only Royal Jordanien is serving Bagdad two times daily with an Fokker. The flights are done by special hired South African pilots. The interesting thing is that they have special landing procedures. Because they fear to be attacked by stinger missiles the plane flies in small circles over the airport to loose altitude.
TW741 From Austria, joined Sep 2004, 479 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4918 times:
There are some photos in the database dated January 18th, 2004. Comments mostly say engines were removed to show US forces she wasn't a threat, and therefore wasn't targeted for destruction
Voodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4770 times:
Luv2Fly wrote: I believe you are talking about the fleet that was left to the elements for YEARS and not air worthy, so please tell the whole story, these were not factory fresh planes we are talking about. I am not excusing what happened by any means.
Iraqi AW was flying passengers (illegally but never challenged because it wouldn't look good, or strengthen any `coalition' to shoot down `even' an Iraqi pax jet) from Baghdad to Basra using 727s and IL-76s until hostilities began. As stated above, the engines were removed for their protection and to reduce targeting by US forces. But that didn't stop the eventual vandalism.
` Yeaah! Baade 152! Trabi of the Sky! '
: And it mentions that so far only Royal Jordanien is serving Bagdad two times daily with an Fokker. The flights are done by special hired South African
: If they really wanted to protect the planes they would have gotten them out of harms way, they took the time to remove the engines why not just do the
: @Daumueller - flights are operated but obviously not bookable via normal CRS, maybe only direct with RJ offices. On their routemap they should SDA con
: Well, I must say that Iraqi airways is doing it well, also they can have some Fokkers to make the domestic routes, also take some 733 and 762 from the
: The freshly painted name of this first 737 in the new airline is......."Rocket man" ! gotta love it!
: Hey guys this is a civil aviation forum not a political debate about us/UK action in Iraq, but if you must know I think it was about time something wa
: And yes good to see iraqi airways flying again
: It's good to see them flying again although I don't expect them to have any serious plans or even consider acquiring new aircraft until the situation
: Cedarwings Do you have an ID for the B737. I notice that the F28 shown by TW741 is ZS-XGX, which was SE-DGF,(SAS) in an earlier life.
: Cedarwings Thank You for providing those excellent pics of the first flight. That is something all Iraqi's can be proud of
: I'm glad they kept the old IA colours - although not with the "dolphin", which is a shame. I hope IA aren't going to be hosted in RJ's RES system - th