717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 7 Posted (8 years 8 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2989 times:
According to the magazine Aviation Letter, Germanwings is to lease some of Aebal's 717 for the upcoming winter season. Don't know in which colors they will fly.
Sabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2872 times:
@Jorge: the rumour I heard is that all Airbus aircraft of Germanwings on lease from LH will be returned to LH, and that several or all A320's of Condor Berlin will go to 4U.
BREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 540 posts, RR: 18 Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2677 times:
That's interesting. There have been rumours about Germanwings going for the 717 as a replacement for the Airbuses, and even about LH Mainline getting them to replace their 735s. Maybe the lease is a good opportunity for LH to see how well the 717s perform. Would be great to see some flying around in Germany!
JoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 29 Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1618 times:
One of Spanair´s daily MAD-OVD-MAD flight is operated by an AeBal´s 717, even though both MAD and OVD are nowhere near the Balearic Islands. Maybe this would be one of the 717 flights to go?
Just flew it a couple of days ago, BTW. Very nice aircraft, I must say.
Planemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 5480 posts, RR: 35 Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1607 times:
I don´t know how many people are aware that AeBal is controlled by Grupo Marsans, SAS Group and Spanair... and in turn, Spanair is controlled mainly by SAS Group.
I couldn't find a presss release with further information.
Also, the major aviation press with daily reports hasn´t carried any news.
How many 717s does Aebal have and can they actually spare any?
As YYZ717 said, they operate 4 -- 3 owned and 1 leased (Pembroke.)
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SunCEO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 359 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1409 times:
Spanair have been acquiring further MD-82 aircraft from SAS (SE-DIK;SE-DIN). This combined with airbus deliveries will leave the AeBal aircraft operating on routes such as MAD-AGP and AGP-BIO for spanair free to lease. My guess is Spanair are making money by leasing in 82's at a lower price than they are charging for leasing out the 717s...
TriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4685 posts, RR: 48 Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1367 times:
Sorry, I have heard so many rumors about "magical" new 717 operators and orders on this website and from certain members, I will only believe this when I read something official.
There have been rumors posted about 717 for SNBA, Cebu Pacific, Turkish Airlines, Lufthansa, Air Canada, Jetsgo, Finnair...
And how many of these have come into real life (yet)?
Anyway, always nice to read another rumor - at least it allows you to dream about a magical world, where the 717 ia actually a sought-after plane...
BTW - I like the 717 very much, but see its future prospects with a healthy dose of scepticism by now.
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BestWestern From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 6417 posts, RR: 58 Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1138 times:
"AeBal could possibly lease a number of new aircraft from Pembroke, then turnaround and sub-lease them to Germanwings...just a thought!"
Why would anyone do that???
With the depressed rates for aircraft leases today, I already assume that Spanair are getting less from German wings than they are paying for their 717's.
The future Germanwings fleet could be easlily made up of all ex LH733's when they are retired from Germanwings' real parent.
It says: Eurowings group will operate two 717 from Aerolineas Baleares (AeBal) which are operated in wetlease. The two a/c will expand capacities on the one hand, on the other they are for testing the a/c for a permanent use for eurowings or germanwings. It´s also said, that eurowings has to replace their Bae 146 and germanwings is searching for smaller equipment. Cause of the weight of the 328 the 717 should be a good alternative in their eyes.
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Unique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 40 Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 764 times:
It's still not clear if they will receive Germanwings colors
For ZRH spotters, it doesn't really matter as the aircraft is (so far) planned to be here Thursdays and Fridays from 7.40pm till 8.10pm, starting 4th November. At this time, it's pitch black outside...
Let's hope it will come on the morning flights, too!
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