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Germanwings To Operate Aebal 717s?  
User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3553 times:

According to the magazine Aviation Letter, Germanwings is to lease some of Aebal's 717 for the upcoming winter season. Don't know in which colors they will fly.

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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3477 times:

Heard that they also shall get all A-320s of Condor/Thomas Cook. Anyone can confirm?

User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3436 times:

@Jorge: the rumour I heard is that all Airbus aircraft of Germanwings on lease from LH will be returned to LH, and that several or all A320's of Condor Berlin will go to 4U.

Frederic


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7952 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

717? On which routes? I couldn't find a presss release with further information.

Norbert (drooling)



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User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

That's interesting. There have been rumours about Germanwings going for the 717 as a replacement for the Airbuses, and even about LH Mainline getting them to replace their 735s. Maybe the lease is a good opportunity for LH to see how well the 717s perform. Would be great to see some flying around in Germany!  Smile

Lukas


User currently offlinePacificWestern From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

How many 717s does Aebal have and can they actually spare any?

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3065 times:

How many 717s does Aebal have and can they actually spare any?

They operate just 4.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlinePacificWestern From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

Hmmm....2 for Aebal and 2 for Germanwings? I wonder what sort of aircraft Aebal would use to substitute for any of the 717s they lend.

As an aside, I've never been on a 717 before, but am curious to. I can't see any airline in Canada adding that aircraft to their fleet.


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

I wonder what sort of aircraft Aebal would use to substitute for any of the 717s they lend.

AeBal probably has a seasonal downturn anyway in the winter, so likely no replacement aircraft are needed.





Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2182 times:


One of Spanair´s daily MAD-OVD-MAD flight is operated by an AeBal´s 717, even though both MAD and OVD are nowhere near the Balearic Islands. Maybe this would be one of the 717 flights to go?

Just flew it a couple of days ago, BTW. Very nice aircraft, I must say.


User currently offlinePlanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6147 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

I don´t know how many people are aware that AeBal is controlled by Grupo Marsans, SAS Group and Spanair... and in turn, Spanair is controlled mainly by SAS Group.

I couldn't find a presss release with further information.

Also, the major aviation press with daily reports hasn´t carried any news.

How many 717s does Aebal have and can they actually spare any?

As YYZ717 said, they operate 4 -- 3 owned and 1 leased (Pembroke.)



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User currently offlineSunCEO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 359 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1973 times:

Spanair have been acquiring further MD-82 aircraft from SAS (SE-DIK;SE-DIN). This combined with airbus deliveries will leave the AeBal aircraft operating on routes such as MAD-AGP and AGP-BIO for spanair free to lease. My guess is Spanair are making money by leasing in 82's at a lower price than they are charging for leasing out the 717s...

sunCEO


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7123 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1938 times:

Spanair are probably trying to simplify their fleet by standardizing on the MD'82's and the A32X's. The 717 simply doesnt fit into their operation.

Scandinanvian, who owns Spanair probably need a home for some of their MD82's.

Looks like 50% of europes 717's are heading back to Air Tran....

Have OA parked their 717's also?



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Sorry, I have heard so many rumors about "magical" new 717 operators and orders on this website and from certain members, I will only believe this when I read something official.

There have been rumors posted about 717 for SNBA, Cebu Pacific, Turkish Airlines, Lufthansa, Air Canada, Jetsgo, Finnair...

And how many of these have come into real life (yet)?  Insane

Anyway, always nice to read another rumor - at least it allows you to dream about a magical world, where the 717 ia actually a sought-after plane...  Smile

BTW - I like the 717 very much, but see its future prospects with a healthy dose of scepticism by now.






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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

There have been rumors posted about 717 for SNBA, Cebu Pacific, Turkish Airlines, Lufthansa, Air Canada, Jetsgo, Finnair...

And how many of these have come into real life (yet)?


Cebu Pacific decided to operate an all Airbus fleet in the future, click here for the press release.

Patrick


User currently offlineDacman From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 444 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1798 times:
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It would be nice to see a GermanWings 717, it would be even nicer to see one here in Long Beach.

Pembroke Leasing still has options on the books, but won't have them built until they actually have a customer for them.

AeBal could possibly lease a number of new aircraft from Pembroke, then turnaround and sub-lease them to Germanwings...just a thought!

I won't hold my breath on any new operators, but a 717 in the GermanWings livery would be lovely.

Mike
lgbguy



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7123 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

"AeBal could possibly lease a number of new aircraft from Pembroke, then turnaround and sub-lease them to Germanwings...just a thought!"

Why would anyone do that???

With the depressed rates for aircraft leases today, I already assume that Spanair are getting less from German wings than they are paying for their 717's.

The future Germanwings fleet could be easlily made up of all ex LH733's when they are retired from Germanwings' real parent.



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User currently offlineNlspot2004 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1587 times:

Here a picture of a Aebal 717.

http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=46268

http://www.nlspot.com


User currently offlineGeizistgeil From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1491 times:

Here´s a link to german magazine "AeroInternational" which reports about the 717 for Eurowings/germanwings (sorry only in German)
http://www.aerointernational.de/index.php?http://cm.jahr-tsv.de/aero-intern/internet/news/News_240904_13-1.php

It says: Eurowings group will operate two 717 from Aerolineas Baleares (AeBal) which are operated in wetlease. The two a/c will expand capacities on the one hand, on the other they are for testing the a/c for a permanent use for eurowings or germanwings. It´s also said, that eurowings has to replace their Bae 146 and germanwings is searching for smaller equipment. Cause of the weight of the 328 the 717 should be a good alternative in their eyes.

Greetings
Matthias



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User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

Its still not clear if they will receive Germanwings colors. I believe that the 717 would look great in those colors....

User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1328 times:

It's still not clear if they will receive Germanwings colors

For ZRH spotters, it doesn't really matter as the aircraft is (so far) planned to be here Thursdays and Fridays from 7.40pm till 8.10pm, starting 4th November. At this time, it's pitch black outside...

Let's hope it will come on the morning flights, too!


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