SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2723 times:
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I searched and found nothing. I was just curious why Paris Orly has no American traffic like London Gatwick does? I know Orly has customs and all, because several African flight I believe go out of it, but I was just wondering why no US airlines use it. Thanks in advance!
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 10 Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2705 times:
As CDG has expanded, the French Aviation Administration has switched all international carriers to that airport, leaving ORL as a domestic hub. I believe this is due to size constraints. The same thing was done when Le Bourget airport became too small.
ORL is now the French version of La Guardia airport in New York - close in, but hemmed in. CDG is the big international airport. And aren't there plans for an even newer airport?
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Cs03 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 408 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2678 times:
If I am correct, it has to do with competition! With "OneWorld" and "Skyteam", and the others, providing "seamless" service with their partners requires use of common airports for connections. That is one reason most airlines want LHR vs. LGW! The "connection" potential means more revenue potential!
Icarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 766 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2346 times:
PanAm747 : You're right, there are some (big) talks in France about a third airport but it is for ma a non sense (as it is to a lot of people).
The new airport, if any, would be far from Paris (more than 100km) and linked to the city with a fast train (something like a TGV).
Why some talks about a third airport?
Simple in fact : CDG is a huge airport with 4 runways and can receive 80 million pax a year. When it was built, it was in the middle of nowhere, with 2 runways and a lot of preserved fields around for future extension.
With the time, in some little towns around the perimeter of the airport, a lot of people built houses because it was near Paris and the places to build were not expensive.
Now, these same people are ckaimeing that the airport is too noisy, that the traffic must be stopped at night (no curfew at CDG) and so on.
Because some people are stupid (they knew when they built their houses that the airport was meant to be bigger), traffic is now limited at 50 million pax a year and there are some talks about a third airport....in 20 years at best.
N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2340 times:
I have even heard that they would look at expanding Aeroport Beauvais-Tille to be the new Paris airport (FR would like that). Considering that they just built a major addition to Roissy, and now have to fix it, they seem to still want to use CDG
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Jasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 45 Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2182 times:
Almost everyone who moved from ORY to CDG seem to have been forced to make the switch. What's even more annoying is that there are no longer any flights between ORY and LHR or LGW. I sure miss the days of TAT / Air Liberte
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31113 posts, RR: 74 Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2094 times:
So no U.S. carrier goes direct into ORY anymore?
No, but a few months ago, after the CDG terminal collapse, Paris airport officials tried to get AA to move back to Orly because CDG was getting to congested. AA refused. The funny thing is, AA was the last one to leave Orly, back in May 1999, because they loved it there. They were forced to move CDG, and now that airport officials want them back in Orly, they said they didn't want the hassle. It is too bad...I perfer Orly. Much easier airport to use, and closer to the city centre.
Aeronuts From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 114 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2019 times:
"With the time, in some little towns around the perimeter of the airport, a lot of people built houses because it was near Paris and the places to build were not expensive. Now, these same people are ckaimeing that the airport is too noisy, that the traffic must be stopped at night (no curfew at CDG) and so on.
Because some people are stupid (they knew when they built their houses that the airport was meant to be bigger)"
lcarus75, I guess US doesn't have a monopoly in this area. There are common grounds among US and France. Yes, we too have the same problem in the US.
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