Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23523 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2236 times:
I think that DL Connection to ATL would be a more reasonable (though still not horribly likely) goal for EWN. ATL has many, many connection opportunities as well as a location which would not be out of the way for most itineraries- kind of like how CLT is now. Based strictly on the negligble O&D that exists, EWN might be able to sustain a ZW or MQ flight to ORD with some financial incentives from the city, but neither UA nor AA are really in the business of adding flights to cities that small and that far from Chicago.
Edit: Looks like FlyIBaby beat me to the punch by a few minutes, but I'm right with him.
[Edited 2004-09-20 23:47:53]
[Edited 2004-09-20 23:48:50]
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CRJDISPATCHKID From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 99 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2231 times:
We've got flights with 2800's which are pretty much MKE and a few MSP flights. 3700's have traditionallly been DTW hub flights.
4700's are LAN flights.
5600 are MSP.
5700 are MEM.
5800 are DTW.
5900's are MEM.
Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4458 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2207 times:
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Speaking about MSP-TUS in a CRJ, how will they be able to do that? Isn't that more than the range of the aircraft? I guess no full loads. Serverly weight restricted. Why not put a second A320 on that route.
TravisNC From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2146 times:
This is great news for Asheville, but I can't help wonder why AVL gets so many new flights while Wilmington, NC doesn't. ILM and AVL have about the same O&D, ILM's actually slightly higher. Maybe yields are higher at AVL than ILM, though both are leisure destinations I would think. Here are the airlines and destinations for both airports.
Atlanta - Delta
Charlotte - US Airways
Cincinnati - Delta
Detroit - Northwest
Greenville/Spartanburg - US Airways
Houston - Continental
Minneapolis - Northwest
New York (LGA) - US Airways
Newark - Continental
Orlando - Delta
Raleigh/Durham - US Airways
Atlanta - Delta
Charlotte - US Airways
New York (LGA) - US Airways
Washington (DCA) - US Airways (Sat only)
Womack17 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 490 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2131 times:
I don't believe that New Bern could support service to MSP myself, but they are very under-served. When Midway was in operation their flights to RDU ran at very nice capacities. For me personally, I can only remember one flight that I took to RDU from EWN that wasn't full and that was only because a husband and wife got off the flight before we departed the gate because she was having chest pains. The nice thing about Midway to RDU was that it forced US to bring down their ridiculously high prices to CLT. Now that they are the only game in town, prices are one again through the roof. Last time I checked a full-fare Y ticket was right at $700 - absolute air piracy. I agree that EWN could support ATL, WAS, and NYC among others. The new airport is really a true upgrade and they now have a 6000+ foot runway. New Bern is long overdue for new service on DL to ATL at the very least.
Oh how I miss Midway Airlines. A class act right to then end.
Flybywire777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2080 times:
The Asheville area has lots of retires from up north, many with lots of $$. I have been flying out of the NY area to AVL for the past 10 years. I have traveled thru DC, Raleigh-Durham, ATL and others to get there. I jumped for joy when CO started their non-stop from EWR. Now NY has 3 flights a day (w/ LGA). The prices are not low, so I guess it's a money maker to offer nonstops.
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 42
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2024 times:
My question is this.. if CLT-EWN is served by a Dash8-3, why couldn't they simply us a 50 seat RJ? Does anyone know the loads on the CLT-EWN route?
Several reasons. US doesn't have enough RJs to go around yet, so some markets have to wait. There is no difference in seat capacity between a CRJ and a DH3, and on a short flight like that, there's no significant time savings or anything like that with the RJ. Also, the CRJ can have some weight restrictions on shorter flights that the DH3 doesn't have; I know that weight is an issue with OAJ, not sure about EWN. Introducing jet service at an airport that only has prop service can also be a regulatory hassle.
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ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6802 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2007 times:
Ahhh.. okay.. EWN had jet service with Midway.. so I wouldn't think that it would be a problem.. but you bring up some good issues.. I'm pondering now.. ...pondering.... EWN has a 6000' runway.. can handle a RJ.. and they are building a safety zone also.. they get 737 in monthly for a casino charter..
717-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 601 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2005 times:
3 hours on a CRJ should be considered cruel and unusual punishment! But it
is good to see AVL get more service that they can fall back on if US bite the
dust. Up until a few years ago US and DL were the only 2 carriers at AVL.
Ncflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 501 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1990 times:
I'll take 3 hours on a CRJ any day of the week over 5 hours on a connection, where I have doubled the risk that one of the flights is delayed, and I risk getting overnighted at my expense in an intermediate city. What do you expect, a 757 on the routes? It is fantastic how these little jets have opened up new routes, and most people could care less.
Good for Asheville, I think the reason it has better service than Wilmington is it does a terrific tourist trade, it's not served by a somewhat close low cost airport like RDU, it is tough to get to. I'm vacation their at thanksgiving, and I had a heck of a time getting a reasonable flight.