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User currently offlineIlovenz From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 149 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5718 times:

For many years now (since 1998) I've had a Schabak model of a Continental Airlines A-340. Did Continental ever consider the A-340? I'm surprised Schabak would make a model that didn't exist.

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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 978 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5686 times:

Yes they did. When CO entered banktrupcy, the orders were terminated, and when Gordo put CO back on their feet, they went with the 777. Whatever widebodies they have... they could use a few moer.

User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3442 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5681 times:
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CO did have orders for the type, but canceled them.


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User currently offlineIlovenz From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5652 times:

I see. As they were getting rid of their A-300's (A-310's as well??), it wouldn't have made sense to make the fleet even more eclectic with Airbuses, McDonnell-Douglases, and Boeings of different ages. Thanks for the info guys! I'll treasure my model as long as I have it as a collector's item.

User currently offlineDasheighty From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 311 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5628 times:

Continental never operated A-310

User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 978 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5590 times:

Continental never operated A-310

They ordered them, but they never entered service. I believe one bird was in early production when the order was terminated? If this is true, does anyone know where it ended up?


User currently offlineUa777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5526 times:

CO got some 300's from a merger with ______ (fill in the blank please)

Then the current CEO, Gordon Bethune, came in and started to put the airline back on its feet. The 300's were phased out and he aimed for what is now an all Boeing fleet. This is impart due to the fact that he does have VERY good ties to Boeing.

Any chances of the 340 orders happening again?
Right after WN orders the A320

Thanks again.

UA777222



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User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1065 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5385 times:

"CO got some 300's from a merger with ______ (fill in the blank please)"

Blank=Eastern


User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2690 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5375 times:

COEWRNJ is correct...indeed CO A300s were ex Eastern. But they were only with the fleet for a few years before being sold....I suspect CO will look on the 777 as the future of its fleet now...plus it probably is likely to order 7E7s---whether those will be GE or RR-powered is up for questionable debate. MY guess is GE--if a GE engine were available on the 757, CO's 757s would be GE-powered no doubt in my mind.


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User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5352 times:

Continental was very seriously considering the A340 and even the A320 in the early 1990's as replacements
for 747's, DC10's and the dozens of 737-100's, -200's,
727's, and DC9 variants it acquired from all the airlines that it merged with in the 1980's. However, financing
was a problem given CO's precarious position at the
time and the airline was generally unhappy with the
performance of its A300-RB4's, many of which were
frankly pilfered from Eastern by the Lorenzo group
that nearly ran CO to the ground. The A300's were
tough to operate at the high altitude of CO's then
hub at Denver and were not suited for high heat ops
common to Houston, were too large for the then new
Cleveland hub, and were often flown on routes that
really needed something smaller out of Newark.

As soon as Gordon & Co. took over, all Airbus bets
were off and CO went all Boeing.

and

Continental had ordered 13 A330's and 10 A340's in 1989 but in 1993 they cancelled all of them because of the econmical problems all airlines suffered at that time.
And when Gorden Bethude (or whatever his name is...) took over Continental was lost for Airbus, since he used to be a big Boeing manager or even the boss I don't know. Now CO has the 767-200/-400 and the 777-200 in it's fleet. And there is no room for any A330s or A340s. I guess those planes have looked very good in COs livery. But it's too late now...
these were the 1999 words of ContinentalEWR and GodBless respectively

I had to look far but I knew there were some solid answers from the past . . .
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/435412/4/
-SR



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4979 times:

SOME of CO's A-300's were from EA. Frank Lorenzo got some A300's for a song back in the mid 80's. No one at CO shed any tears when they exited the fleet ,as they were maintainence nightmares. The only other aircraft that had the maintainence problems that the A300's had were the DC-9-50's that CO got from EA after EA died.

So while some people outside CO always question and wonder about CO not ordering Airbuses, no one inside CO wonders why.  Smile


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4833 times:

Hey

about schabak... They dont tend to make real models more fantasy. I also have a CO A340 as well as a TWA A330-200.



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User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3414 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4730 times:

While the A300s may have originaly been owned, I belive by the time GB was tapped to head CO they were all being leased, and none too cheaply.


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User currently offlineAirways6max From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4291 times:

CO went with the 777 to replace the DC-10. If they were to order more widebodies, it would likely by the 777. It seems to have worked well for CO.


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User currently offlineLCH From Norway, joined Sep 2004, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2068 times:

AlitaliaMD11: TWA did actually order the A330 AFAIK, but like CO, they had to cancel the order to to poor economy. I have an atrists rendition og a TWA 333 as well as a drawing of a CO A340 in a reference book somewhere.

[Edited 2004-09-24 01:36:22]

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

CO went with the 777 to replace the DC-10

To some degree... but their primary D10 replacement was the 764ER


User currently offlineMiamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

I remember a similar thread about 2 months ago. Seemed like only another user and myself were the only ones that saw a CO A340 on a magazine around the year 2000; and that was a picture, not a drawing.

Maybe it was intended as a short term lease and the plane was painted but something happened and never entered service with CO and was quickly repainted. Very strange but that has happened before with other airlines.


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