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Who Flew Passengers In Vanguards?  
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 7231 posts, RR: 7
Posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

BEA, Trans-Canada-- did anyone else buy them new? Any other airlines ever fly scheduled passengers (or unscheduled, for that matter)?

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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16525 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

Only 2 airlines bought Vanguards new. BEA bought 20 and AC 23. I remember them well in YYZ in the late 60's/early 70's.

Most passed onto cargo operators. Not sure if any were used in pax ops though. I think Merpati might have had 1 pax Vanguard.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

I seem to recall that Invicta Airways (a small UK carrier in the 60s) operated Vanguards, obviously secondhand ones. Did not one of their Vanguards crash into the Alps with a group of mothers from Bristol on a day's shopping trip to Switzerland aboard?

MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineAlgoz From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

Yes, you are right - an Invicta Vanguard crashed close to Basle airport killing all the women on board - I believe they were from Axbridge near Bristol.

User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 6289 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2382 times:

Merpati in Indonesia most definately operated Vangards. They had at least 3 examples PK-MVF,H & R maybe more.

They were certainly seen in Darwin, NT on a number of occusions. I THINK they operated scheduled services from Kupang in West Timore at one time.


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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 6070 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

In the late 60s my father was a Vanguard Captain for Air Canada, and I went with him on a trip I'll never forget.

We left Toronto at 8pm or so, and flew YYZ-YOW-YUL-YQB-YFC-YSJ-YQM-YHZ-YQY-YQX-YYT!!!! Arriving at St. John's Newfoundland around 9am. A trip like that would not be allowed today with duty restrictions as they are, but what I wouldn't give to fly in a Vanguard on a trip like that now!!!

Incidentally, that night, we flew the same route in reverse. Heck of a way to earn a buck. And today I complain about flying an A320 YYZ-YOW-YYC-LAX during daylight hours!

Just because I stopped arguing, doesn't mean I think you are right. It just means I gave up!
User currently offlineGaruda From Indonesia, joined Nov 2000, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

Add PK-MVE in the list of Merpati's Vanguard fleet. If I'm not mistaken, Merpati operated no fewer than 8 different Vanguards during the 12 years of Vanguard operations with MZ, but not more than 3 were ever use at any one time. The last scheduled service was sometimes around 1981-1982.

User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2313 times:


Some of you might not know but the french charter airline EAS ( Europe Aero Service ) used to fly charter flights with their Vanguards, that actually came from TCA and latter Air Canada, the first livery they used on their Vanguards was basic Air Canada livery with EAS titles. Latter they opted for a full EAS livery that was quite neat.

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