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A380: Will There Be More Hype When 747 Launched  
User currently offlineBigpappa From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 84 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 5911 times:


Will they be more buzz and media hype when the 1st A380 flies.. More than when the 1st ever 747 was launched in the late 60's/ early 70's..

The A380 as we know is not the 1st big plane to be built, the 747 was a new thing because it was the 1st ever big plane so it deserved all the attention..

what do you guys think???


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User currently offlineStudentFlyer From Australia, joined Sep 2004, 688 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5893 times:

Well, to tell you the truth, I think the Airbus A380 would be big news the first time it flies, because as others in this thread has mentioned, that they 'doubt' the ability of this huge monster. Well, it would also be a big thing, because we've been following every single progress of the manufacturing process of this monster.

So, let's just wait and see what happens in the first quarter next year  Big grin

Regards,
AK


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5875 times:

I don't think so. There hasn't been that much media coverage by comparison, and the aircraft hasn't really caught the attention of the public. Obviously its not just another run of the mill aircraft, but at the same time its nothing revolutionary. I know alot of people who have never heard of it, or are unfamiliar with what the 'A380' is. I'd imagine it'll be in the news when it does take its first flight, but there won't be a grand rollout when the first A380 is completed and painted.

Then again, keep in mind that Airbus do things differently to Boeing. France/the EU are very different to the US and generally I think Boeing would make more of a deal of the rollout of a new aircraft, as we saw with the rollout of the 707 and 747 and the many thousands of people that were invited and the whole media coverage of the events.


User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5816 times:

I think it will be a big deal because it will mark the end of the 30+ year run the B747 had as the largest passenger airplane. That is significant.

I would be surprised if there is little or no publicity during roll-out in addition to first flight.


User currently offlineVSXA380X800 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5714 times:

I think that when the A380 first flies it won't be as spectacular the 747 because it was the first jumbo jet and by Airbus trying to build their own its like " This is just a nother one". I'm hoping that A380 to be recononized as the now largest commercial aircraft though some might think different. The A380-800 isn't much longer than the 747 and that is what mainly what people look at to see if something "big". Though the A380-900 will be much bigger and will gain more attention than the -800 variant.



[Edited 2004-09-26 17:32:02]


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User currently offlineJoni From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5711 times:


Considering that the level of hype overall has increased about tenfold since the time the 747 was first rolled out, I expect the A380 rollout/first flight/EIS to be accompanied by a spectacular, almost ridiculous amount of hype and PR.



User currently onlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17027 posts, RR: 67
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5690 times:

"Almost" ridiculous? I have no doubt they will cross the line into "completely" ridiculous  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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User currently offlineCsavel From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1362 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5672 times:

Therew will be about ten times the buzz over this, but it will have less effect.

THe times are so different, that Britney farting creates buzz, and cover stories, and specials and bulletins. With all the news channels, cable channels, and interenet sites scrambling to fill up space, anything and everything creates buzz. Thus the A-380 launch will create much more buzz than the 747 launch, when PR was in its innocent halcyon days.

However, since there is so much buzz "noise" in general, the A-380 buzz may have less of an effect.

Also since flying is less exotic that it was in 1970, people may not be as interested. Who knows?

PS my answer is not to be intended as an opinion of the buzz-worthiness of either the A-380 or the 747.



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User currently offlineHz747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1665 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5662 times:
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I wasn't around when the 747 rolled out. All I can say now, is that people I know that don't follow airlines/airliners don't seem to really to care. Probably because air travel has been reduced to a commodity with little product variation between carriers.

I would expect a ton of pageantry and glitz from Airbus when it rolls out, but then it will die down during the testing phase. I would expect more joint buzz between the launch customer and Airbus when it enters service, with a gratuitous first flight full of reporters European leaders. After that flight, it will be greeted with applause, speeches will be made--men will cry and women will throw their underwear at Airbus engineers. Then it will fade quietly and become just another airliner in the skies.

Speaking of, how are the engine tests going for Airbus?



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User currently offlineTartan From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5568 times:

I don't know if there will be more buzz and hype but it will certainly be different. When the 747 was launched flying still had a bit of glamour attached to it. In real terms, the ticket prices were so much more expensive than now and your average person would never be able to afford such a trip.
Nowadays air travel is far more accessible and a far higher percentage of people will be able to travel on the A380. This will capture people's attention in a different way.


User currently offlineDutchflyer From Netherlands, joined Feb 2004, 169 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5559 times:

The A380 is overhyped.

What is realy new? It's bigger (a few more seats than a high density B747), no more modern avionics than let's say a B7e7, no surprise on the engine front.

It's just a bigger Airbus, nothing more. It's not the largest aircraft ever build, it's not the longest haul aircraft.

So about what is this hype? Just because it's new or just because it's an Airbus.

I also like a new Cessna or Piper. Just as spectacular with a full glass cockpit.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7538 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5540 times:

Well who knows, we cant ever guarantee a plane is going to fly, the BIG BUS has to get off the ground first, the 7e7 is making more news then the A380, that will be a big deal, you hardly ever hear anything on the A380, then again, Airbus is not doing a good job with giving the public updates. I have a feeling it will be a little 10 sec piece on CNN Headline News when that takes off something like this.

Today the worlds news largest passenger jet made its first flight in Toulouse, France today the 555 passenger jet took off shortly before 10 a.m. local time and returned several minutes later marking a historical day and successfully completing its first ever flight.



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User currently onlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17027 posts, RR: 67
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5517 times:

Well who knows, we cant ever guarantee a plane is going to fly, the BIG BUS has to get off the ground first, the 7e7 is making more news then the A380, that will be a big deal, you hardly ever hear anything on the A380, then again, Airbus is not doing a good job with giving the public updates. I have a feeling it will be a little 10 sec piece on CNN Headline News when that takes off something like this.


Although as you say there is no guarantee it will actually fly, I wouldn't bet against it  Big grin

As for the marketing hype, the point of it all can be argued. Passengers and the general public don't buy planes, so why make a big deal out of it to them?



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User currently offlineKnoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 259 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5399 times:
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What is realy new? It's bigger (a few more seats than a high density B747), no more modern avionics than let's say a B7e7, no surprise on the engine front.

I love it when people have actually no idea about the technological amelioration that will be embedded inside this aircraft. It is just amazing in terms of maintenance, systems interconnections, network and services, etc, etc...

I could provide an exhaustive list but that will take a lonnnnnng time.

Maybe that's because Airbus just did its "advertisement" on the real technological advances only to its customer, ie the airlines, instead of wasting time about how beautiful their aircraft will look....

And the avionics systems has been highly improved, maybe not as evolved than the 7e7, but there is a 3 to 4 years difference between the two designs already, so I would consider it as normal....

Instead of saying things you have no idea on, just keep your mouth shut.

Thanks,

Knox



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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 5299 times:

Thanks Knox. Took words right from my mouth.  Big thumbs up

Some people just have NO idea and yet they act like they know it all. Not that I'm saying I know a lot, but I've seen and been told of the technological advancement to be introduced in the A380, and for today's world, it is quite significant. Of course it may not beat the B7E7, which is a few years apart in terms of design. But heck, the B7E7 isn't even being built yet! Compare the A380 to today's newest aircraft, then note the difference.


User currently offlineVSXA380X800 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 5267 times:

Starlionblue I second that!

Dutchflyer, Like Knoxibus Said. You have NO idea what your talking about. Your opening you big mouth like you have no clue of whats happening around you.The 7E7 is the one thats really "Over-Hyped".



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User currently offlineTarantine From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 5226 times:

Remember, when the 747 was introduced, almost all the airlines, even domestic US carriers had at least a few 747s for a short time. The 747 launch was BIG because widebodys were brand spanking new. The A380 is just another big wide body & we probably won't see it much in the US for a while.

User currently offlineStudentFlyer From Australia, joined Sep 2004, 688 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 5202 times:

Well, it could only be huge in the aviation world, but for some people (if not most), as been said by some in this thread, they just simply don't care about the aviation world. They are too, how should I say this, 'ignorant' should I say, because they just can't be bothered to even have an interest in this great subject!

Remember when the first B773 flew? That was the aircraft with the longest fuselage, and yet, it only became a hype within the aviation enthusiasts. Why, because we know the facts about this aircraft. But for those who aren't interested, it's just another big bird, comparable with others, making a flight. Nothing spectacular. (Sorry if I'm going into A vs. B mode) but anyway, it could make a bit of relevance here, just to prove my point.

Let time tell the truth

Regards,
AK


User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 5195 times:

Well, I don't know but recently I have many friends and school mates (who I think often watches TV, news and documentaries on Discovery and the likes) have asked me what is up with that huge super jumbo. Some even called it the A3XX. People who saw or knew about the A380 ARE interested and amazed. You see, most people, find size more astonishing.

Big is better in many people's mind.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy So the A380 will be getting their attention somehow.


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 5188 times:

When the A380 is launched, the only people that will be really excited will be just us aviation
nuts, as far as the media & General Public are concerned, just another big airplane. Same will hold true when the 7E7 is launched.



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User currently offlineRj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1807 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

I bet Airbus will make sure there's going to be some hype!

User currently offlineSoaringadi From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 5060 times:

The answer I think is obviously yes.

That is because, there too many are more people interested in aviation today than there were in the late 60's -- early 70's.



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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

I guess some people think they don't need to know stuff to for an opinion, huh?

The late 60's/early 70's was a completely different generation, back then planes evolved. That was why the 747 may have been a big deal (I wouldn't know I wasn't there), because it was something new and quickly came to be. Nowadays, it's all business.

The world newsmedia groups look at events and situations based on their own perspectives and what interests their viewers, i.e. ratings (that's why I never bought the political slant crap). More than likely a portion of Europeans will give a greater damn about A380 than that same portion of people in other nations. I remember the Concorde crash was covered for 3 days in this country, I am sure it lasted longer in France; it had to have, planes crashes in the US go on for at least a week.

For a good idea of the American reaction of the A380, look to the A345/6 roll out. For a good idea of the American reaction for the 7E7, look to the 777 roll out. Unless the flight experience changes, most people won't give much of a damn. I go to Embry-Riddle, a lot of the students don't know about the A380, except that it is supposed to be a bigger plane. It kinda upsets me that this is an aviation school.

Besides if the rumors are true that the first A380 will fly in January, I think US media will be more concerned about terrorist threats around the Presidential inaguration. Hell, I don't mean to sound harsh, but I am certain that the first reaction from Americans who've never heard of the A380 until then will think "terrorist target"

****

I don't know how many times I should say this: A380 is designed, i.e. ability, FOR the next few decades! Obviously it would be a flop as large amounts of people aren't so suddenly flying within the next week. It bugs when I read/hear people claim the A380 won't work because we don't need it now. Well fucking duh, it's not for now, it's for later!

Just in case somebody mentions it: the A380 is in a completely different category as the 787 (we know all it's not gonna stay an E). So stop comparing things like their markets or sales!


>> "Passengers and the general public don't buy planes, so why make a big deal out of it to them?" <<

Starlionblue, with all due respect, that is the most outrageous thing I have ever heard. The least you could have done was get wildly specific. Airlines may purchase the plane, but the only way they can get their money's worth is if people fly on them -- the passengers pick up the tab in the end. Besides, didn't the 747 usher in relatively cheaper fares?

>> "The A380 is overhyped" <<

Dude, I think you've been in the A.net forums a bit much lately.  Wink/being sarcastic This webnet may be the gossip central for aviation online. You can't even start a thread without it being biased to such a degree it is not even realistically logical anymore. The members here can become hyper-patriotic rather easily; life here (in places) is hyped.  Smile



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User currently offlineLtbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13078 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4960 times:

In 1967, you had 3 Jumbo's in development - The 747, the DC-10 and the L-1011. I recall in 1967 a NYC Sunday Newspaper (that went out of buiness the next year) with a front page story of the DC-10, that you will be able to fly coast-to-coast for $99 dollars when it comes out. (something that would come true and sometimes still occures, before taxes) There was some attention to the 747 due to it's large size in major newspapers, newsmagazines, some TV reports. Also, PanAm, then "America's airline to the world" would be the initial airline to buy the 747 and directed many of it's specifications.
When the A-380 is formally launched, we will be able to see real time TV reports, probably on CNN and the internet, which didn't exist when the 1st Jumbos came out. There will be the pride of the Europenians to make the biggest passanger aircraft ever made which will add to the hype. There has already been shows on the A-380. But most people including those in the Media, unlike us here, really don't care about aircraft, unless there is a crash or deaths. The launch of the A-380 will only be of interest of news and aircarft junkies.


User currently offlineA380900 From France, joined Dec 2003, 1110 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4840 times:

I would'nt be surprise if it's on the cover of major weeklies in the US after first flight. That is if Bin Laden is not caught the same week.

It will definitely be on the TV News. I'm not sure whether the pictures will be telling or not. Maybe once in the air, with the distance, it will be hard to tell the difference between the A380 and the A318 (except for the number of engines). They have the same overall proportions.

It's going to bring up some questions about Boeing in the US.


25 Thrust : I don't think the A380 is going to be as big as the 747 was when it was introduced, for several reasons. The first is that jets were still relatively
26 Starlionblue : >> "Passengers and the general public don't buy planes, so why make a big deal out of it to them?"
27 Post contains links Sabenapilot : I expect Airbus to intensify the PR offensive based on adds and clips like this one: http://www.airbus.com/video/media/advertising/wonders.mpg fantasi
28 MD80Nut : The hype surrounding the A380 can be expected to grow as the date of it's first flight draws nearer. However, compared to the hype that surrounded the
29 Na : I agree that compared to 1969 and the PR limitations back then the effect for the A380 won´t be higher than the lauch of the 747. But the A380 will c
30 Ken777 : There is no doubt in my mind that the 380 will fly with very few problems, and those won't make the news. The 747 did fine with only a fraction of the
31 Post contains images Lehpron : >> "The vast majority of pax don't care what plane they fly as long as the ticket is cheap. Sure, they will say things like "I don't like props" or "F
32 Joni : I'm surprised that some of you know non-aviation people who don't know of the A380. Most everyone I've talked to about planes has mentioned the "new
33 Lehpron : Joni, perhaps I misunderstood you, are you suprised people that don't know about planes are asking about it or that people who you happen to talk to d
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