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User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

One year left of grad school then I'm out to see the world. Was looking at RtW tickets...has anyone bought one of these and done it before? If so, what carrier were you on and what are the restrictions. I haven't done much research on this, still have a year of class and need to pass the bar. Can you fly into any continent? Do you alway have to fly one direction...East or West?
Any comments?

Cheers,
AA777jr

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User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1032 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2851 times:

Good luck with the last year of grad school. I have done RTW trips often
( next one next week). The best way is to work through an Alliance like STAR or oneworld. I use Star Alliance and thus have loads of airlines to chose from. The way it works is this. On Star you choose First, Business or economy. There are several layers of travel by miles - 25,000, 37,000. etc. You pay the price of the class of service and layer of miles. You can go for one year, but not less then ten days. You have to make at least three international stops. You must keep going in the same direction. It is less money to start your trip from Canada then USA.

I believe oneworld you pay by the number of continents you will be stopping on.

It is a great trip. Enjoy!


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7545 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2844 times:

Actually SkyTeam has a pretty interesting one also. Check out http://www.skyteam.com

It wont load anymore, but Concorde Tours or somthing is chartering a NW 744 I think in May to try and break the world record. website was http://www.over-both-poles.com



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1032 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2835 times:

I do no think any Skyteam partners fly to Australia? And that is one place not to miss on a RTW.

[Edited 2004-09-26 22:43:23]

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7545 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2809 times:

Continental flies to Cairns, Australia


"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1032 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2794 times:

But isn't that through Microneasia? A long flight if going from/to US. No major aircraft, longhaul. If you want to island hop it is OK.

User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2793 times:

TonyBurr, in more specific terms, how does the booking process work? After you give them your RTW city pairs, do they then provide you with the best times according to "their system" or do you pretty much have freedom to choose times and carriers as you please?

Also, have you ever flown a RTW by redeeming miles? Do the same rules apply?



Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7545 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2789 times:

Its through CO Micronesia, which is CO. Its direct from Guam to Cairns with a 737-800.


"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1032 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2784 times:

I would suggest deciding when you want to depart, an idea of your itinerary, approximate dates. You cannot change the departure date/flight once you book. You can change the others ( for a fee) afterwards or enroute, as long as you stay in the correct direction and do not go above the mileage level.

When you have some idea call a Star Alliance or oneworld carrier ( UA, BA, AA,AC) and give them your itinerary. You can chose flights/carriers as long as there is availability. It can be fun mixing all different airlines.

I have not done it redeeming miles. I think you can on Star.


User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2775 times:

KE flies SEL-SYD. oneworld Explorers are one of the best RTWs IMHO. Basic run-down of conditions:
- 1 year maximum stay
- total of 20 flights allowed (a direct flight with multiple stops = 1 flight)
- pricing is based on number of zones visited which roughly follow continental lines (North and Central America / South America / Europe and Middle-East / Africa / Asia / SW Pacific) - this is unlike many RTWs which are priced based on distance.
- you are allowed to back-track within each continent, but not when travelling between continents
- except in certain circumstances, you can only visit each continental zone once
- you are able to use any flight operated by a oneworld carrier with a oneworld carrier flight number as long as there is availability in the relevant booking class - "L" class for most carriers. EG you can book a BA flight using the AA flight number to yield more AAdvantage miles, but could not book a LX flight using the AA flight number because LX is not in oneworld.
- you are allowed 6 flights within North and Central America and 4 flights in all other continental zones, but never more than 20 for the whole ticket.


User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2765 times:

BTW with regards to oneworld Explorer RTWs, once ticketed, you can not change the date of the first international flight (presumably because this flight determines what season you are travelling in and whether you pay the low season etc price). However, following this flight, you can change the date and flight for free as long as the city pairs remain the same. Rerouting costs USD$75.

Check out these very useful sites on RTWs:
http://members.shaw.ca/fewmiles/oneworld/
and
http://www.informationlab.com/rtw.htm


User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2617 times:

I called AA and they have a number you can call specifically for RTW tickets and information. You travel by continents on One World...according to the AA customer rep that I spoke with.

AA777jr


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

It's quite easy. I am going around-the-world with OneWorld next year.

Economy is $A2500 approximately.

From Sydney, I am going to Hong Kong, then to Tokyo and then back to Hong Kong. This is using two of the four flight segments I can use.

From Hong Kong, I am going to London, then Amsterdam, Dublin, Berlin, London. This uses all of my four flight segments. The restriction I came across in Asia is that you can't use OneWorld to fly Hong Kong to Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) on Cathay Pacific, even though they fly there. I was told I'd have to go to Bangkok and then to Ho Chi Minh City.

In North America (which includes Central America and the Caribbean) you have six segments. Only one trans-continental USA to use, and there is a special restriction regarding Hawaii.

Therefore, I am going to Antigua in the Caribbean, San Juan, New York, Orlando, San Francisco, Dallas and then to Vancouver.

As I am living in Dublin for 10 months, then Vancouver for 12 months, I won't use my return Los Angeles to Sydney flight (I'd have to pay to get to LA anyway, as I'd be out of segments).

That is the 4 continents journey and all for $A2500. Business Class is $A9100. It's cheaper on Star Alliance, but I imagine that's related to product.

The thing you need to do is visit the OneWorld alliance carrier web sites. You have to be able to take a OneWorld carrier between two points, hence why I am going from London to Antigua on BA, Antigua to San Juan on American Eagle, then San Juan to New York on American. If the airlines don't fly between two points, you can't fly on the ticket between those points.

Additionally, the tickets last 12 months with no extensions, and nor can you upgrade for any segment of the journey by paying extra. Any unused segments are lost and non-refundable.

Finally, you earn points as normal on all your flights - no half points or any of that like you usually would with discount tickets.

Calling your OneWorld home carrier and telling them the itinerary you want will be easiest, but do the research on your cities and what not beforehand. Also be careful - I asked a travel agent and they told me I couldn't do some of the things I wanted to do, because they were reading their screens incorrectly.

Hope this helps!

Trent.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

$2500 A? Isn't the US dollar stronger than the Aussie dollar? So would I have a cheaper ticket?

AA777jr


User currently offlinePresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 661 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

I am currently traveling on my second Oneworld Explorer ticket. Allow me to reccomend purusing the Oneworld Forum on Flyertalk. Plenty of info and tips for planning these trips.

I do my Oneworld Explorers in First Class and originate in the country offering the best exhcnage rate relative to the U.S. Dollar that is easily accessible from the United States. In 2002, it was Sweden. In 2004 it was Egypt.

My 2002 RTW was not limited by the 20 segment rule and involved 5 continents (fare basis AONE5). Like you propose, I did it after finishing grad (law in my case) school. This was my routing:

Stockholm - London -- British Airways J Class
London - Dubai -- British Airways F Class
Dubai - London -- British Airways F Class
[surface segment London - Frankfurt]
Frankfurt - Dallas -- American F Class
Dallas - Santiago -- American F Class
Santiago - Easter Island -- Lan Chile J Class
Easter Island - Santiago -- Lan Chile J Class
Santiago - Los Angeles -- Lan Chile F Class
Los Angeles - Chicago -- American F Class
Chicago - Seattle -- American F Class
Seattle - Chicago -- American F Class
Chicago - San Fran -- American F Class
San Fran - Chicago -- American F Class
[surface segment Chicago - New York]
New York - San Fran -- American F Class
San Fran - Hong Kong -- Cathay Pacific F Class
Hong Kong - Osaka -- Cathay Pacific F Class
Osaka - Hong Kong -- Cathay Pacific F Class
Hong Kong - Denpasar -- Cathay Pacific J Class
Denpasar - Hong Kong -- Cathay Pacific J Class
Hong Kong - Bangkok -- Cathay Pacific F Class
Bangkok - Sydney -- Qantas F Class
Sydney - Ayers Rock -- Qantas J Class
Ayers Rock - Perth -- Qantas J Class
Perth - Sydney -- Qantas J Class
Sydney - Auckland -- Lan Chile F Class
Auckland - Hong Kong -- Cathay Pacific F Class
Hong Kong - London -- Cathay Pacific F Class
London - Stockholm -- British Airways J Class

This year, I am doing another AONE5, ex-Cairo. This is what I have done so far:

Cairo - London -- British Airways F Class
London - Frankfurt -- British Airways J Class
Frankfurt - Dallas -- American F Class
Dallas - New York -- American F Class
New York - Barbados -- American J Class
Barbados - New York -- American J Class
New York - Austin -- American F Class
Austin - New York -- American F Class
New York - Los Angeles -- American F Class
Los Angeles - Santiago -- Lan Chile F Class
Santiago - Rio -- Lan Chile F Class
Rio - Santiago -- Lan Chile F Class
Santiago - New York -- Lan Chile F Class
New York - Hong Kong -- Cathay Pacific F Class
Hong Kong - Tokyo -- Cathay Pacific F Class

In October/November, I will finish the ticket, routing:

Tokyo - Hong Kong -- Cathay Pacific F Class
Hong Kong - Singapore -- Cathay Pacfic F Class
Singapore - Sydney -- British Airways F Class
Sydney - London -- Qantas F Class

In January, I will end the ticket by flying:

London - Dubai -- British Airways F Class


User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

I would recommend the Star ticket over One's. More carriers, more choice, more flexibility. Especially when you want to see Europe or Asia. Only if you want to see a lot of Australia Oneworld is the favorite.

I did my Star Around the World in 2002.

HAJ-VIE-NRT: OS
surface Japan Rail
FUK-SIN: SQ
SIN-SYD: SQ
SYD-AKL: NZ
AKL-NAN: NZ
NAN-RAR: NZ
RAR-LAX-LAS: NZ/UA
LAS-ORD-DCA: UA
surface Amtrack
BOS-FRA-FMO

60 miles below the milage limit.



User currently offlinePresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 661 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

I prefer Oneworld's continent based structure to Star's mileage based structure. I can do more without having to worry about mileage limitations and can rack-up more FF miles one One than Star. As for having more airlines on Star, that is true. For me, with enough advanced planning, I have neverbeen able to not get on a flight I wanted, even if I had to waitlist (needed to do this to get on CX's nonstop JFK-HKG flight, but I did clear over two months before the flight). One may have fewer carriers, but having the opportunity to fly CX, LA, BA and QF is worth having fewer choices.

User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3170 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

My current RTW:

CPH-MAN (SK C)
MAN-ORD (BD C)
ORD-LAX (UA F)
LAX-YYZ-LAX (AC C)
LAX-SFO (UA F)
SFO-NRT (NH F)
NRT-HKG (UA F)
HKG-SIN-BKK (SQ F)
BKK-MUC (TG F)
MUC-ATH (LH C)
ATH-VIE-LHR (OS C)
LHR-CPH (RG C)

My next RTW:
CPH-ZRH (SK C)
ZRH-MAN (SQ F)
MAN-ORD (BD C)
ORD-LAX (UA F)
LAX-OGG-LAX (UA F)
LAX-LAS-SFO (UA Y)
SFO-LAX-HNL (UA F)
GUM-KIX (NH Y)
KIX-VIE-MXP (OS C)
MXP-WAW-LHR (LO C)
LHR-CPH (RG C)



14 year airliners.net vet! 2000-2013
User currently offlineTrolley Dolley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2236 times:

I'd also look at the route you are doing. I don't know the US market, but it's cmmon to have one or two airlines that work together to give a round world ticket. eg QF/BA offer fairly extensive fares to Europe from New Zealand that allow travel via Africa or Asia or North America or South America. Yeah, I realise a New Zealand fare is no good to you, but I am sure there are similar sort of fares on sale in the USA. Sometimes these sorts of fares, plus a few paid sectors, can save a lot of money. Depneds on your goal. T clock up themileage, aircraft types etc, stick with an alliance fare. Check the fare rules and booking classes for travel. Oneworld Y class is booked in L class, a low yield fare that has restrictions on earning eg as QF frequent flyer I earn no points on an AA sector booked in L.

I'm doing the following route this Nov on oneworld:
Wellington-Sydney-Bangkok-Hong Kong-Johannesburg-London-Muscat-London-Washington-Dallas-LA-Santiago-Caracas-Santiago-Rio-Santiago-New York-LA-Brisbane-Darwin-Sydney-Wellington. It's about 70,000 miles all up on the one ticket.


User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5712 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2218 times:

If you plan on visiting Europe, consider the SkyTeam RTW ticket http://www.skyteam.com/EN/benefits/aroundTheWorld/index.jsp in conjunction with the
European Airpass http://www.skyteam.com/EN/benefits/airpass/index.jsp
SkyTeam's rtw product is mileage based: 26, 29, 36 or 39,000 miles with 3 - 15 stops. After the first intercontinental flight you can change your itinerary free of charge.

From the SkyTeam partners KE operates Sydney, Brisbane and Auckland + Christchurch. By time of your travel MH will hopefully be a SkyTeam member as well.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2144 times:

Aa777jr -

Yeah, $A2500 is today worth $US1787.

For price and the amount of travel you can do, you're mad if you don't do a round-the-world. I'd pay virtually the same price if I booked a Sydney to London return.

Trent.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineACB777 From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 350 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

How much in Canadian dollars would it cost for a Skyteam Airpass to fly

YVR-AMS
AMS-DXB
DXB-NBO
NBO-KIG
KIG-NBO
NBO-LHR
LHR-YVR

How much would it cost for:

YVR-AMS
AMS-NBO
NBO-DXB
DXB-YVR


User currently offlineRatypus From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

Just finished a four month one last month - this doesn't necessarily apply to you as you'll be leaving from the US, but I got a BA-Qantas ticket and it was excellent. For under £1000 (ie about $1500) I went RTW AND via two 'hard to get to from Europe' continents eg Africa and South America. Routing was London-Nairobi, then Jo'burg to Perth to Sydney to Auckland to Santiago, then Lima to Madrid and London.

For anyone leaving from the UK I'd recommend checking these out - they book you on some normally very expensive flights (any one of JNB-PER, AKL-SCL or LIM-MAD-LHR can cost what my ticket did) on some good airlines - eg Qantas, BA, Lan Chile through a codeshare.

Worth a look! Rules for mine were mileage (30,000) and constant travel in one direction. And given its Qantas you usually go through Australia - recommended!


User currently offlineOS-A330 From Austria, joined Aug 2001, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

This may be a little off-topic, nevertheless I have been wondering, if there are any cheap possibilities of doing a (half) RTW which only include departure from Europe-South America-North America-return to Europe.

I know, that RTW tickets normally require you to fly transpacific as well. I, for myself, however would like to exchange the transpacific flight for a second transatlantic back. So are there any options?

By the way, just came back from a highly recommended oneworld RTW visiting 4 continents: Europe, South America, North America and Asia.
Routing was:
VIE-BCN-MAD-EZE (IB)
EZE-LIM-CUZ (LA)
LIM-SCL (LA)
SCL-MIA (AA)
MIA-SXM (AA)
SXM-MIA-YYZ (AA)
YYZ-DFW-LAS (AA)
LAS-LAX (AA)
LAX-HKG (CX)
HKG-NRT (CX)
NRT-HKG-BKK (CX)
BKK-HKG-DXB (CX)
DXB-LHR-VIE (BA)


User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

Wow, so much info I'm overwhelmed. I want to get the best RTW ticket for my money, I think I'll call AA and find out the number to their RtW office and get all the info. I too, am in my final year of law school and need a year to relax!

AA777jr


25 PresRDC : AA RTW can be reached at: 1-800-247-3247 My advice is to call when it opens on weekdays at 7 AM Dallas time. The two AAgents working that time are far
26 FlyboyOz : Wow that interesting, I will choose oneworld alliance to fly RTW. But I have got some questions about it. 1) For how long did you stay in each city? 1
27 ClassicLover : If you're worried about hotel prices and such in Europe, you could always just stay in Youth Hostels you know, or other Backpacker accommodation. With
28 Nickofatlanta : ClassicLover - You get unlimited stopovers on the oneworld Explorer ticket except in the continent where you start / finish your journey where you are
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