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KLM MD-11's... Starting To Be Retired?  
User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 12627 times:

I've just seen pics of PH-KCB arriving in Xiamen China and was told its for freighter conversion, the aircraft is in FULL scheme.

Not sure about you guys but I've heard nothing about the KLM MD-11's being converted. So, is this true? Is A still flying?

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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2492 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 12538 times:

Sorry but i don't believe the man who took the picture than  Wink/being sarcastic can you please post a link of the photo?

the first KLM MD-11 is due to retire in 2012, maybe its just 1 of the 2 proposed MD-11's to be converted, but its very unlikely since the article about the KLM conversion for MP was about 2 years ago and never was official

greetings, the biggest MD-11 fan, maurice

User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 12502 times:

Hi, Can you find out what PH-KCB is doing in Xiamen parked by the SQ 744 thats all white waiting for freighter conversion??

User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 12420 times:

What routes do the KLM MD-11s fly. I know they do the AMS-MSP. What else?

User currently offlineAndrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 466 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 12380 times:


User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 12360 times:

I have just talked to a KLM MD-11 captain and he told me they expect the MD-11 to be in service until 2012. Sounds really long, probably the fleet will be slighty reduced in the coming years until the final end.

Maybe PH-KCB is out for a D-check?

KLM MD-11 routes, as of summer 2004 (possible changes since mid-September):

- Aruba (5 weekly)
- Bonaire-Guayaqil-Quito (5 weekly)
- Bonaire-Lima (6 weekly)
- Delhi (daily)
- Lagos (daily)
- Minneapolis/St.Paul (daily)
- Montreal (daily)
- San Francisco (daily)
- Vancouver (daily)


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 12208 times:


to add to the list it also did JFK a couple of times during the summer.

Maybe the MD-11 in Xiamen for its D-check or re-painting, or being configured to a combi?? Also maybe new interior?

No Vueling No Party
User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 507 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12081 times:


Starting this winter, at some point the Delhi, San Francisco and Lagos flights will be replaced by the 777.
On Vanvouver and Montreal, the MD11 is downsized to a 767.
On the daily AMS-Kilimanjaro-Dar-Es-Salaam-AMS flight, the MD11 will replace the 767.
The MD11 is also new this winter to Accra, and the 3rd daily AMS-MSP run will be handed over to Northwest.
Nairobi still has a mix of 777s, 767s and MD11s.

User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11977 times:

The M11 fleet is going for its (second) D-check with Taeco.

Big contract with Chinese industry signed a few months ago.

First D checks were performed by SR technics 5 yrs ago.

KLM E&M does do light maintenance, painting, components and CF6 engines on the M11, but outsources D-checks.


Martinair is getting a different M11.

User currently offlineCrank From Canada, joined May 2001, 1564 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11662 times:

KCB made an appearance at YUL last thursday, september 23rd, I hadnt seen that rego here in a long time.

User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5038 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9824 times:

Montreal will be reduced to 4 weekly 763 and 3 weekly MD11 eff.12dec

User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9798 times:

they also fly a daily MD11 into ACCRA

Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
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