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New NW Anchorage-Maui-Honolulu Seasonal Serv  
User currently offlineSebwhite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5007 times:

Northwest Airlines Announces New Anchorage-Maui-Honolulu Seasonal Service
Monday September 27, 2:00 pm ET
Airline to Offer Its First Nonstop Flights Between Alaska and Hawaii


MINNEAPOLIS, Sept. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Northwest Airlines (Nasdaq: NWAC - News) today announced that it will offer new seasonal service between Anchorage, Alaska, Maui, Hawaii, and Honolulu, from Feb. 17 through April 3, 2005.

The flights are the first nonstop service the airline has offered between Alaska and Hawaii.

The flights will be operated with Boeing 757-300 aircraft seating 224 passengers, including 24 in first class.

Flight 93 between Anchorage and Maui, continuing to Honolulu, will operate on Sundays, Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays between Feb. 17 and April 3. Flight 92 between Maui and Honolulu, continuing to Anchorage, will operate on the same days between Feb. 17 and April 3.


http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040927/cgm039_1.html

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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4924 times:

That is really very interesting.

I guess NW has decided that Hawaii is a good market for them and the 753.

On the other hand, that somewhat shows that the 753 isn't working out for them on other routes.

N


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7538 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4924 times:

Great news, NW is really finding the market for those 753's! I bet they are starting to wish they had a few more! NW seems to be making all the right moves lately  Big thumbs up


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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4910 times:

How long of a flight would that be? Secondly, is there really a market for such a flight??

UAL747


User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4895 times:

Too bad the 753's are so unfriendly for the cabin crew on these long routes. This is certainly a very interesting route and should probly cut the travel time in half between these 2 markets. The flight number is also interesting, i would have guessed that airlines wouldnt be using flight number 93.


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User currently offlineSebwhite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4894 times:

It's the same distance as BOS-SFO, about 2800 miles.

User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4865 times:

Wow...Northwest is really going all out on adding new service to Hawaii this year. First PDX, SFO, and now this. I wonder what other west coast airport are they planning to add service from?. SJC, SMF, SAN, LAS, SLC,PHX and RNO would be great contenders............

User currently offlineNwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 690 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4847 times:

I started noticing this a few months ago, and this only re-enforces what I was thinking. NW has found a niche for the 753's and is probably wishing they had ordered a few more. Too bad it's too late now.

NW is really growing its presence in Hawaii. LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA, DTW, MSP, now ANC to HNL. ANC-OGG, SEA-OGG/KOA. Not to mention that NRT and KIX also have service to HNL. Maybe the rumors from PHX and LAS to HNL are not so far fetched.



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User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1335 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4817 times:

Yeah for NW!!!!
This flight will do very well.... Western used to fly this route and it was always full... it is about time someone picked it up... I wonder how this will effect the "Hawaiin Vacations" charter flights ANC-OGG and ANC-HNL



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User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4808 times:

Do you think NWA would consider a PDX to OGG flight?

User currently offlineNwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 690 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4776 times:

Leneld,

Yesterday, I would have said no. Now that they have added ANC-OGG, it would not surprise me. However, I don't think that it is likely.

I am sure we wont see NW service to HNL from SJC, SMF, SAN, SLC, and RNO. They would not fly 753's into those cities. They are just regular stations with basic service to MSP and DTW.



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3942 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4726 times:
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i am stunned..........i dont even know what to write!!!


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3942 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4722 times:
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does anyone have the times of the flights


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User currently offlineNwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 690 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4700 times:

NW93 ANC-OGG DEP 16:00 ARR 20:55
NW 92 OGG-ANC DEP 21:55 ARR 06:40



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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4667 times:

This really is interesting. Alaska - Hawaii is a huge (relatively speaking) market. When I first started as a travel agent in Juneau and then Anchorage, we had a dedicated person in both offices that did nothing but Hawaii, and we couldn't keep up with the demand. At one time in the early 80s, there were actually three scheduled carriers on the ANC-HNL route, Western, United and South Pacific Island Airways (SPIA). How long has it been since there was any scheduled service?

I don't doubt that the route will do well. Hawaii overall, and Maui especially, has seen a dramatic increase in arrivals from all over the US. The evening departures are really starting to pick up at littler 'ole OGG.

Duane



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4646 times:

I don't know about that Searpqx.

Hawaii Vacations is able to justify the long term charter of a Hawaiian Airlines 767(previously DC-10) aircraft to handler their ANC-HNL traffic.

I wonder how a schedualed flight will actually do, and what effect it will have on that charter.



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User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2444 posts, RR: 31
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4610 times:

Interesting that they are using flight number 93 for the outbound.


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3942 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4606 times:
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what time does it leave HNL? I cant open the link here at work.


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User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1397 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4583 times:

Interesting that they are using flight number 93 for the outbound.

Why?



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7538 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

Interesting that they are using flight number 93 for the outbound.

Why?


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3942 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4552 times:
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we've been using 93 for a long time..........IAH-GRU-GIG


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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4547 times:

How does ETOPS factor into this??? According to the GCM, OGG-ANC is 2430 nm and ETOPS 180 is what is needed to make it...do the NW 753's have ETOPS 180???

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=OGG-ANC%0D%0A&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=red&PATH-UNITS=nm&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=&ETOPS=138

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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7776 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4518 times:

Any mainland-Hawaii flight needs ETOPS 180, so the 757-300s would already need that certification for existing service.


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User currently offlineSebwhite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4514 times:

USAFHummer : You'll notice that if you enter SFO-HNL on that same page, you also get a ETOPS "hole" ... but the west coast - hawaii flights seem to work for NW!

User currently offlineIowa744fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4494 times:

Is this service really so seasonal that they would only operate it for a month and a half? That part doesn't really seem to make sense to me. I guess that late April is when the Alaska traffic really picks up and maybe they would want to switch some capacity back to Alaska-Mainland US, but is there demand for this route in the winter in Alaska? It just seems odd that they are only going to offer a total of 28 flights.

25 Aa61hvy : I love it when people ask if there is market for a route? Do you honestly think an airline isn't going to research any? Any just put a plane on a made
26 Mikey711MN : I understand that, Burnsie, but with all due respect, four planes went down that day, none of which were (1) NW planes (2) outbound from ANC (3) flyin
27 Drerx7 : I wouldn't expect other carriers besides those affected on 9/11 to not use those flight numbers. There is justifiable reason why they would not, for t
28 Post contains images Jetjack74 : Also, NW will be announcing PDX-AMS shortly. We're picking up an extra gate there at PDX. It's going to be for a March of 05 start. )
29 CALMSP : seriously? wow thta would be amazing for PDX.................is there a possibilty of a tag-on from SEA?
30 Leneld : Does this have anything to do with the high operational cost at Seattle? Are airlines starting to look at PDX as a viable alternative to Seattle?
31 Nlink : Was looking in the system today and mid next year the SEA-AMS is showing a 330-300 , not the 330-200 like we had heard scheduled.
32 Gigneil : We had really only heard rumors. The 333 will do fine on this route. Also, NW will be announcing PDX-AMS shortly. We're picking up an extra gate there
33 TWFirst : I wonder what NW will charge for the inter-island portion of this flight (assuming they'll sell fares for that segment... don't know why not).... inte
34 MAH4546 : interesting that for a few weeks, there'll be a third choice for island-hopping! Fourth. Effective November, AA's SJC-Hawai'i routes will operate as a
35 Leneld : Gigneil....When it comes to PDX nothing surprises me anymore. I can't beleive that Lufthansa , Northwest, and Mexicana has international flights out o
36 Leneld : Gigneil....When it comes to PDX nothing surprises me anymore. I can't beleive that Lufthansa , Northwest, and Mexicana has international flights out o
37 KDTWFlyer : That's very cool if you ask me... a AK to HI service. What other airlines have done that in the past, any? I would like to see year round service betw
38 Kim777fan : I can understand how there would be markets TO each of tye ANC and HNL markets as both Alaska and Hawaii are major vacation destinations. I'm just a t
39 MAH4546 : What other airlines have done that in the past, any? South Pacific Island Airways, United, and Western, and maybe others. I'm just a tad surprised to
40 PSU.DTW.SCE : The key part of this flight, and other flights to HNL using the 753's is that it is significantly increasing the utilization of the 753 fleet. In the
41 M404 : I would not doubt that NW was contacted by an agency for this route but could not guarantee all capacity. NW, as has been said, saw an opportunity to
42 Cdgdtw : pdx-ams in march '05 Is this the continuation of a rumour or from a respected and true source?
43 Azjubilee : I suggest all of you who think you can run NWA better than those who are currently running it, SEND IN YOUR RESUMES. Obviously those who quesiton the
44 COAB767 : "I didnt think airlines would use a flight 93" Well guess what they do. NW uses 175 between MSP-SEA and that was one of the flight numbers that crashe
45 Dtwintlflyer : Airlines only retire numbers if they were involved in accidents/ or other events for that particular airline. NW also has flight 11 DTW NRT. As far as
46 NWDC10 : I wish it was year round service. Robert NWDC10
47 Jetjack74 : I wish it was year round service If AZ stays in business and with SkyTeam, it most likely will. I don't really know about PHL-AMS though. NW lost $30
48 Post contains images SFORunner : What's next .... LON - HNL ...?
49 Kalakaua : A lot of people from Hawaii like to go up to Alaska to fish, ya know... For salmon, and such...
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