Chiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2845 times:
They fly JFK-FRA. I guess they do so because they have to land somewhere. JFK-SIN is too long. Apart of that they can sell seats with a LH-codeshare, have full traffic rights (thanks to Star Aliance I guess) and make a lot of conections in Europe.
Col From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2122 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2833 times:
EWR to AMS has been dropped and replaced by the direct flight EWR-SIN. JFK - FRA is to a Star Hub, but I believe the code share between LH and SQ was dropped, guess the pax were upset expecting SQ service, and ending up with LH.
Bill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8458 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2050 times:
I heard something on this forum about it ending once. It had something to do with SQ always offering a lower price then LH on flights which were operated by LH. I think it may have been the FRA-SIN sector that was dropped.
However it may have come back, if it ever went away at all.
Ex_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1888 times:
I think the codeshare between FRA and JFK was cancelled. IIRC LH actually had two flight numbers on SQ25/26 - one for JFK and one for FRA (don't ask me why). If only one is appearing in the system, then I would think it is gone.
Planemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1008 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1673 times:
They fly JFK-FRA. I guess they do so because they have to land somewhere. JFK-SIN is too long.
For the Boeing 747-400 used on that route, it would be too long a flight. However, The A340-500 is capable of flying that route non-stop (as demonstrated daily by SQ on SIN-EWR run). I think Singapore Airlines chose EWR because it believes that the non-stop service is preferred by business travelers, and business travelers would prefer EWR because of connections / convenience from EWR.
As far as AMS-JFK route, SQ was filling them in quite well. However, it may have been that the yield was less than FRA-JFK.
Also, I believe that having fairly liberal treaties with both the US and most European states, SQ was able to get 5th Freedom from AMS and FRA. Existing treaties between the Netherlands and Germany with the US also allows for many third country airlines to carry passengers between points in NL / Ger and US with 5th Freedom rights. Thus, SQ's choice of FRA is not necessarily entirely based on Star Alliance tie-up (although it could obviously have some merit) but because of availability of favorable rights. I am quite sure if the Singaporean government could get similar rights from the UK, SQ would make one -- if not more -- dailies on SIN-LHR-JFK run.