Boeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4731 times:
The basic config for the 217 (7E7-8) seat layout is as follows:
3 rows of 2+2+2 First Class at 60 " Pitch
5 rows of 2+3+2 Business Class 40" Pitch
18 rows of 2+4+2 Coach at 32"
2 rows of 2+4+2 Coach at 60" Pitch (L2 and L3 Doors)
1 Row of 4 Center Coach at 32" Pitch
First: 22-26" (Pending on Aisle Width)
Busniess: 20-24" (Pending on Aisle Width)
Coach: 19" Standard
All informations are based on 2/3-class aircrafts. But I wanna know, what are the MAXIMUM seating capacaty??? As the 7E7-8 is orderd by charter airlines FIRSTchoice and Blue Panorama, I am curious about the max. seating! any suggestions??? also on the max. of 7E7-9 and /-3?? any boeing guys here??
Boeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2987 times:
Your three class config is about 180. Between L1 and L2 it's 3 rows at 60" and 5 rows at 40". Between the L2 and L3 and L3 and L4 doors there is room for 10 rows at 34" each section. There is room for a center row of 4 seats at the L3 door with 42' pitch.
The 2 class config would be roughly 240-250.
The 7E7-9 is roughly 320 in a typical two class. Most likely 270-280 in a three class. At this point it's undetermined.
The real kicker. You could configure the bird 2+3+2 business with about 160-170 seats and run it with a lower ASM cost than a 767-300 or A-330.
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 850 posts, RR: 51 Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2928 times:
Bleargh! Remind me never to get on one of those
At 3+3+3, the 7E7 seats would be roughly equal to the seats on the 737, 757, A330, A340, and EK's 777s. With decent pitch and IFE, I see no big pain. Or are you avoiding those aircraft as well
Any info what would be the seating capasity with above seat specifications
Just take a look at the way current airlines opperate their 763ERs, the two aircraft are almost exactly matched for capacity. No airline opperates an Airbus, Boeing, or anything at the exact seating advertised. Heck.... AA seats 224 in their 777-200ER!
Sevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2031 times:
Ive never really taken an interestin the 7e7, but ew!!!! Those weired window configuration! ITs a bit like the TU-104-with the line of windown 'raising' at a point, well strange! It seems to be in business class, lets hope steerage isnt like that!
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 850 posts, RR: 51 Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1520 times:
Thank god they scrapped that illogical 3-2-3 config though.
They havn't.... an airline can choose between 2+4+2, 3+2+2, 3+3+3, or 2+5+2. The 3+2+3 has actually recieved positive feedback from the surveys Boeing has done, and until you try it yourself, it might be a bit premature to write it off.
Many flyers prefer 3+3+3 in the 777 even though it is statistically "less comfortable" than 2+5+2.
As I might have stated b4. All customers will put in a very uncomfortable 3-3-3 config in coach. No matter what the marketing yabba tells us.
By that logic, all 777 opperators would be following EK's model. And yet, only a small handful of 777 opperators seat 10 abreast. The 7E7 gives airlines the option of seating 9 abreast, lowering seat/mile cost for charter and LCC airlines while increasing the aircraft's flexibility and resale value.
Then they will have a weight problem.
I assume you mean that a 7E7 in high-density configuration would be too heavy? The 7E7 is heavily "over-ranged," with 8,500nm avialable to the base model. The intention of this extra range was to allow airlines to carry lots of underfloor cargo, but this payload can be subsituted for human payload above deck.