Ussherd From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 329 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4918 times:
Local news announced this morning that CO is planning to start flights between Newark and Belfast, Ireland's second largest city. Final details are still being worked out, but rumor has it that CO will make a formal annoncement within the next few weeks. The airline will aim to operate a daily 757 on the route, starting from next spring. However, one of the concerns has been whether the market would sustain a non-stop flight every day right through the slackest period of mid-winter. If the route were to start, CO would benefit from development aid via the Government's Air Route Development Fund.
CO currently operates a daily flight to DUB, which is two hours (by road) to the south of Belfast. In September 2001, Aer Lingus dropped the Belfast/Shannon leg of its New York service from Belfast International Airport.
Ussherd From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4698 times:
Belfast isn't in Ireland... it's in the UK
Perhaps I should have said "Belfast is the second largest city on the island of Ireland."
By the same token, comparing Belfast to the distance from DUB is moot, since they're in different countries with some of the tightest border control, anywhere
Border control between N. Ireland and the Republic of Ireland is non-existent. Many people living in and around Belfast (myself included) prefer to drive down to Dublin rather than flying Belfast-London-Wherever. The company I work for (a N. Ireland based firm) has an agreement with EI for all of our trans-Atlantic travel (mostly DUB-JFK), but would consider switching to CO if they started flying out of Belfast.
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6462 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4524 times:
This does not surprise me at all. Actually, I'm surprised it didn't come before, say, Bristol. I really hope this happens for Belfast, after years of being "feared" by many Americans, they are definitely becoming a touristy spot, and I'd love to get there some time soon. Perhaps next summer! Good luck Northern Ireland!
Matthewroy From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4415 times:
I would love to see this happen. CO is my second favorite airline, too.
I have to put in my opinion on "border control" as well. If you're in a car, there is absolutely nothing to stop for when you go from the Republic of Ireland into Northern Ireland (U.K.) or vice versa. The main road between Dublin and Belfast doesn't even have a sign that tells you when you've crossed the border. The only way to tell is that the pavement color changes slightly and the prices for gas (petrol) are listed in pounds or euros.
Cory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2723 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4384 times:
Are the 41 ETOPS certified 752s the international configed ones?
I believe that 16 of CO's 752s are internationally configured, although that can be quickly and easily changed by taking out the domestic F seats and replacing them with J seats. I believe it only takes a few days to do the swap. CO has more than enough 737s to cover for any 752s that would be leaving the domestic market.
Ant72LBA From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4147 times:
I've asked this before but didn't get much of a response: how does CO go about choosing its routes; do the airports go begging to it, handing out route development grants, etc. Or do CO approach an airport, or group of airports, and see who offers them the best deal? How does this fit with competition rules? I bet NCL and LBA would love CO to start EWR services and I'm sure could produce the required loads but do they miss out because of some grants that Northern Ireland can produce that Northern England can't?
FlyLondon From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4099 times:
By the same token, comparing Belfast to the distance from DUB is moot, since they're in different countries with some of the tightest border control, anywhere.
Hmmm you might want to look up the Common Travel Area Arrangement which has been in place since the 50s, way before Schengen, which will gove you information about the free movement of British and Irish citizens between and around the two islands.