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AA To End Service To Islip And Sioux Falls  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33273 posts, RR: 71
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5465 times:

American Airlines will end all service to Islip, New York and Sioux Falls, South Dakota at the end of this month.

American Eagle's three daily ERJ-135 flights between Boston and Islip, New York will end 31 October 2004.

American Eagle's three daily ERJ-140/145 trips between Chicago O'Hare and Sioux Falls will end 31 October 2004 as well.


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User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5440 times:

do you ever sleep? *lol*

-n


User currently offlineMikeTheActuary From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5253 times:

American Eagle's three daily ERJ-140/145 trips between Chicago O'Hare and Sioux Falls will end 31 October 2004 as well.

Well now, that just SUX.  Smile

(With an airport identifier like that, who can resist making a pun?)


User currently offlineGeg2rap From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 853 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5223 times:

Miketheactuary,
SUX is sioux city, ia
FSD is sioux falls....
sux lost AA service after TW lost out.....
hey al least your airport code is KRAP
Jeremy


User currently offlineDAYGS From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5217 times:

MAH4546, thanks for that info! I always enjoy reading your posts and know the info you provide is always correct. Isn't this like the 20th time AA has opened/closed Sioux Falls? LOL.

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5219 times:

No surprise on the BOS-ISP route being cut. ISP was only served from BOS; it never had ORD service (at least recently, I think AA did have M80 service to ORD at one time).

Jeff


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4432 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5193 times:
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Who wants to connect in ORD from FSD? They can get mainline to MSP and connect in a wonderful terminal! Smile

User currently offlineWestindian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5094 times:

Well, well!! Looks like Southwest has succesfully booted AA out of ISP!! I certainly did not see that one coming. This looks like that old cliché "You may have won the battle, but you won't win the war".

Incidentally, AA did have MD-80 service to ORD at one time. The also had service to Florida (back when Carnival Airlines existed).

Interesting development indeed.

Neil



God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3847 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4837 times:

Will AA be opening up any new cities with the aircraft being taken off these routes?

User currently offlineIfly2eat From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4782 times:

You wondered where the cuts that the FAA mandated at ORD would come from? Secondary, smaller cities, so bye bye Sioux Falls. You wait, more to come. Isn't the FAA wonderful!


Fly the friendly skys and stay out of mine.
User currently offlineKim777fan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4764 times:

There's still NWA connecting service available through MSP which has a MUCH nicer terminal anyway. Not to mention that HP is starting service from PHX starting in December, so not exactly a total loss for FSD.

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4432 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4711 times:
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And there also is still several Air Wisky and Skywest flights to ORD daily, so connections are still available in ORD.

User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4270 times:

This does really suck, wait until morning here in NY when others hear. That;s horrible, it's really looking like WN town in ISP. I always take DL,CO and their partners but I'de fly AA before WN. They downgraded the ISP-BOS route to a 135 instead of a 140 last spring. I just looked ast jetnet and the route to ISP isn't that empty! The flights are pretty full for the next two weeks. The week day flights are 27 seats take 2 weeks away. I don't believe that it can be a yield problem. I know many people that are business orientated that have to go to Boston and Providence. Dejana trucking constantly uses AE to jump to BOS and PVR via BOS, they have 2 show rooms up there.
SR



W N = my Worst Nightmare!!!!!
User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6929 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4245 times:

Its a shame about islip. I would figure that AA has the possibility to expand at ISP because of there strong New York presence. I suppose WN is really putting pressure on the other airlines at ISP.


"KEEP CLIMBING" -- DELTA
User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4159 times:

This makes no sense...it's not even like Southwest is competing with American on the only route AA flew (ISP-BOS)...this leaves, among the legacies, ASA (3x CRJ) to Atlanta, Comair (3x CRJ) to Cincinnati, COXJ (2x ER4) to Cleveland, COCX-Commutair (4x BE1) to Albany, USX-Piedmont (4x DH8) to Philadelphia, and USX-Colgan (2x BE1) to Albany...of course, Southwest flies quite a few flights (all of the following, with 737-X00's, of course): 9x Baltimore, 3x Chicago-Midway, 3x Fort Lauderdale, 1x Las Vegas, 3x Nashville, 3x Orlando, 2x Tampa, and 2x West Palm Beach...not to say that I'm expecting 747's to JFK, but I would think that, at the very least, NWAK-Mesaba to DTW, UAX-Shuttle America to IAD, and possibly UAX-AWAC to ORD could be supported...


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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3847 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

I dont know about all that. You have WN. i mean, Your airport has proven itself by getting WN, and they arent gonna share the market if they think they can have it all.

User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4098 times:

I remember when Lakes flew into FSD with the Brasilias.

Speaking of codes, wouldn't it be horrendous to fly from Dickinson, SD to O'Hare via Sioux City? Or vice-versa.. imagine the line-routing on that one...

ORDSUXDIK

DIKSUXORD

hehe


User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3970 times:

AA was relying on BOS-ISP traffic. BOS is not a good connector for AA going west. Yes they do have onward flights from BOS but CLE and CVG are better geographically located hubs for this business. I'm suprised about this. US and DL had lots of frequencies at one time with small props. Some carrier should come in a give it ago. Didn't WN pull out of ISP-PVD?

User currently offlineNYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 693 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

The ERJs used on BOS-ISP are going to be used to increase frequencies on BOS-STL. Eagle is trying to use its aircraft for maximum revenue potential.

User currently offlineMilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2012 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3858 times:

AA cannot make money flying those little airplanes when WN sets the fare.
AA began ORD-ISP service in 1971 with 727-023's. FSD was served by OZ and later WA Transworld Airlines (USA)">TW from STL with DC-9's, and by OZ from ORD with DC-9's, before operations were concentrated in STL. UA later served FSD from ORD with mainline equipment. Pulling out of Sioux Falls is a sign that the industry is going to through a rational, rationalization process. From FSD, via MSP on NW, on on UA via ORD, one can get to almost any destination that one could reach via ORD on AA. How much competition does FSD need? Perhaps Delta will return there, and have flights from CVG. WA was the major carrier west and to MSP prior to deregulation from FSD.


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6729 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3839 times:

DL started service to FSD back in July...3x daily to CVG using CRJ's.

With the arrival of DL, HP and Allegiant, FSD will still have plenty of capacity even with AA's departure.



User currently offlineIslipWN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

Wow, this really sucks. ISP is losing all of its airlines. I find it very interesting that there were more airlines at ISP in the early 90's rather than 2004. ISP is going to be some dinky airport now.

Joe Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

According to Jetwire, the daily employee newsletter, AE is discontinuing BOS-ISP for two reasons. One, BOS is the only destination now served by AA/AE from ISP and, even though the flights may be full, there is not enough traffic to make the service viable. Second, and probably the biggest reason is, AE needed aircraft to operate BOS-STL. Apprently American Connection is losing that route and AE is taking it on. That is also why BOS-PHL is ending. They needed the aircraft elsewhere.


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User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3799 times:

FSD will still have service to ORD 5x daily by United Express. I guess FSD is just too small to justify service to ORD from two different airlines.

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