The 4th aircraft F-GSQD was delivered in September.
F-GSQE will be delivered this month, QF in November and QG in December, so 7 a/c (on a total order of 16) will be already in service at the end of this year. 3 more a/c are scheduled to join the fleet between Jan. and April 2005.
After NRT, the B773ER should serve SIN, HKG, PVG, IAD, JFK, LAX, IAH in a near future.
The first figures after 4 months of operations show and excellent reliability of the a/c and better performances than what was announced by the manyfacturer.
"The results are above the most optmistic expectations" declared AF's Managers.
From its home base CDG, the B777ER can fly nonstop with a full load to all the destinations served by AF (except PPT).
The a/c have a comfortable 3 class configuration with 8P/68J/235Y
The 3rd A319-ER (owned - 4th in use) will be delivered within the next few days. F-GRXI will join F-GXRG / XH and F-GTAS (leased from Aero Service) on the DEDICATE services from CDG to DOH, SSG, PNR, TAS, KWI.
FLYSSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7353 posts, RR: 58 Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 15834 times:
Concerning the A318, 15 are on order and 6 are already in service.
21 B735 are still in service but progressively retired and replaced by A318/A319. There shouldn't be anymore Boeing in the AF's Short/Medium Haul fleet by the end of 2006, maybe sooner.
But AF should replace them by more A319, rather than A318.
More A319-ER/LR will be ordered for the DEDICATE services as this product is already profitable just after few months of existence, and this concept will be extended to other destinations.
The A321 is not very popular with AF, as the airline made the choice of "Frequencies" against "big capacity" and AF doesn't face any "slot" restriction at CDG for the moment, so the fleet of A321 should not grow that much in a next future...unless :
A new project of using the A321 as a Medium/Long haul a/c, with a "REAL" Business class (like on the A319-ER) is under studies but we don't have a lot of informations yet concerning this.
FLYSSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7353 posts, RR: 58 Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 15765 times:
The "DEDICATE" service was launched last spring.
The idea was initially to offer Nonstop flights from CDG to "Oil Business" destinations such as PNR (Pointe Noire - Congo), SSG (Malabo - Equatorial Guinea), TAS (Tashkent), KWI, DOH. But as the traffic (very lucrative) doesn't justify the use of a "normal" long-haul airliner, the service is operated by some A319-ER, configured like a long-haul airliner with 28 Business Class and 54 Economy.
Due to their success, some destinations like KWI could be soon served with a regular A332, and new destinations are be added to the network : Atyrau (Kazakhstan), Kish Island (Iran) etc...
This service could also be used as soon as next year to offer Nonstop from AF's second French Hub LYS (Lyon-St Exupéry) to NYC.
JoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 14949 times:
The price for their Dedicate service seems to be astronomical high. A test booking for Strasbourg-Point Noire in early November in economy says Euro4667. If thats the typical price for their Dedicated service, I can't see how they will make it work for routes like Lyon-New York where they have competition. Maybe an all business flight like LH's Privateair flights is more likely in this case.
Has anyone informations about the economics to operate the A319LR. Is it really necessary to ask for such high prices to fly an A319LR long-haul? What are the number to operate an A319LR vs an A330?
Ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12677 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 14801 times:
On August 28th, 2004, I took a tour of Boeing at Everett, which included the finishing/delivery area for 767, 777 and 747 a/c across the road from the assembly plant. That area is where painting, final fittings, testing (airport there), corrective work and delivery is done. One of the aircraft undergoing pre-delivery work was an AF 777-300 ER's, probably the one delivered in September (F-GSQD? Sorry I didn't get the registration, if available). It's odd, but good, that AF goes with Boeings for long haul's vs. Airbus' which are assembled in France. What would be the primary routes this would serve? Maybe CDG-LAX/Asia/South Pacific/South American long nonstop routes?
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 23 Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 13953 times:
that's probably because the flight is already heavily booked.However,the yields on these routes is already excellent and the only other way to get to PNR is via the likes of BZV,LBV or LAD!I think most Texan and French oil execs would prefer the direct flight